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0x3f 12 hours ago

I don't know how this specific thing works, but I don't really see any fundamental problem with mixing and matching. If you believe in the benefits of crypto, then 50% crypto is still possibly better than 0%.

It's not like I forgo a lock on my front door just because my windows are made of glass.

mnkyprskbd 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Currency isn't a homebrew computer or backyard car project; it is either centralised or not; there is no in between.

Blockchain with central authority is the worst of both worlds.

sota_pop 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Very much this, it’s all the technical rigour, code debt, and none of controls/reversibility.

At least when I report fraud to credit card or my bank, they can stop or undo/chargeback a transaction.

stan3223 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And if it is centralised, what is the point of blockchain? Just run it out a Postgres database.

0x3f 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really. At a traditional bank I have to trust n people with varying degrees of access. Et ceteris paribus, any reduction in n is an improvement, even if n is not zero.

Of course n can be smaller and the specific people less trustworthy, but that's quite a different thing.

mnkyprskbd 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

At a traditional bank you have your national deposit insurance scheme; you get that in return for converting your "assets" to the said nations issued currency but accept the authorities control of the money supply and your funds.

With decentralised money, you get the safety of a globally distributed attestation backed by cryptography without a single authority controlling the supply of money or your funds.

There is no halfway option. You either have a single authority that can exercise control or you do not; number of delegates for exercise of control is almost irrelevant since you can change banks.

0x3f 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean you're just making bare assertions, of course there are halfway options. Different components of the account or relationship can have different parameters. Most crypto products are not the equivalent of depositor accounts anyway, they wouldn't be insured necessarily at a traditional bank either.

ribosometronome 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That access is to provide account support, no? Reverse fraudulent transactions and the like. A "bank" could just not do that save for if you're a large enough client to merit attention but why would I want to bank there if I'm not a large enough client?

snypher 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ok so we are expected to trust; the creator/s, some random hacker, whoever else has the key? So the value here is between 2 and 'many'.

0x3f 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You're expected to do your own research about how it works, who the keyholders are, and what permissions they have. You're free to choose only projects where n=0. If you choose n>0, you have to work out your trust and confidence level. You're always free to use the traditional financial system as well.

nkrisc 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If my money in the bank is stolen I have legal recourse.

dylan604 11 hours ago | parent [-]

is insured by the FDIC legal recourse?

mothballed 11 hours ago | parent [-]

FDIC does not cover bank theft[].

  FDIC deposit insurance does not protect against losses due to theft or fraud, which are addressed by other laws.
That's covered by private bankers bond insurance, much like you could get for a decentralized stored pots of gold or you can buy insurance in the form of put options (like on IBIT) on the loss of value of bitcoin or if your cold wallet is stolen you can initiate legal proceedings against the thief.

[] https://www.fdic.gov/news/fact-sheets/crypto-fact-sheet-7-28...

dylan604 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's good to know. I guess that makes sense though as those swindled by Madoff had to recoup their money through Madoff's estate instead of FDIC.

I guess Hollywood has mislead us yet again in pretty much every bank robbery scene with dialog like "Nobody panic. We're not stealing your money, we are stealing the bank's money".

cindyllm 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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babypuncher 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The primary selling points of cryptocurrencies are all hinged on the promise that they are decentralized and can't be controlled by a single entity. Without that, all they are is a new version of PayPal or a credit card network that requires many orders of magnitude more compute resources to maintain.