One word for you: dieselgate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

A process not working on occasion doesn't mean the entire verification method is garbage.

I get the desire to not have to trust a third party, but realistically, there isn't a way to function without doing so, outside of going out and living in the forest in a cabin you've built yourself, either doing without electricity, or with solar panels you've built yourself from raw materials.

Human processes aren't like computers. They're messy. They fail sometimes. They need checks and balances. Sometimes those checks and balances don't work. Sometimes the checks only work well after the fact, and the people who were harmed aren't all made whole.

That's life. We probably can't do much better.

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actionfromafar 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Someone did go to jail, so there's at least that.

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dmitrygr 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. But a lot of people still got cars that were not as represented. So if we follow the same pattern, somebody will go to jail, but most routers will not be running verified or safe code.

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Snafuh 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you apply the same scrutiny to the food you eat?

Some trust has to be created through testing standards and the law, but generally we do believe what the label says in day to day life.

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dmitrygr 9 hours ago | parent [-]

In so far as I cook myself? Yes

	▲	kelnos 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So you personally test your produce to ensure it's safe to eat, has no pesticides embedded in it that could harm you, etc.? You do that after every single trip to the grocery store or farmer's market? Every trip? You don't spot check, and assume/hope/trust that the ones you don't test are safe?

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actionfromafar 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The routers thing? That's probably just a scam to get donations to the Trump Family Bunker/Ballroom in DC or other pet project.

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KennyBlanken 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Friendly reminder that _all_ automakers - European, American, and Asian - had been doing this emissions cheating for decades.

Detection of the car being on a rolling road, special button combos that trigger the emissions testing map, etc