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huijzer 2 days ago

When do we cross the barrier from incompetent to nefarious?

delecti 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

They're orthogonal, so there's no barrier. They're all nefarious, and most are also incompetent.

ragebol 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Getting yourself installed as president while knowing you are incompetent (I mean, look at all those bankrupt businesses, he should know) is nefarious in itself. His entourage is nefarious for supporting the incompetency for their own gain.

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jerlam 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If people are giving you money, are you truly incompetent?

I think we're using different scales to measure competency.

ragebol 2 days ago | parent [-]

Competent enough to receive money, not competent enough to run a country well. But now we're getting into very subjective stuff, I'm sure his handlers are quite OK with what he's doing. It doesn't matter it all looks super suspicious, they are confident they won't face any consequences.

array_key_first 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you're incompetent maybe you don't know you're incompetent? I think probably a lot of people told him, but he's also very stubborn, so. He's been rocking that god fucking awful spray tan for decades now.

I mean, Christ, we have good spray tans, I know we do.

cindyllm 2 days ago | parent [-]

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delecti 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

One of the few conspiracy theories I kinda believe is that Trump's 2016 presidential run was a grift and he expected to lose.

Everything since has just been an inability to admit he was in over his head, plus trying to get out of trouble for all the crimes he did. He (and Clinton) just underestimated how susceptible the US was to a demagogue. If you look at his face after the win was announced on election night, and after the first meeting with Obama for the transition, I think it shows plainly on his face.

huijzer 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

And they are not nefarious and competent while pretending to be incompetent?

XorNot 2 days ago | parent [-]

The Nazis were hilariously incompetent, but it didn't make them any less dangerous.

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idle_zealot 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not an either-or question; they're very transparently both nefarious and incompetent.

red-iron-pine 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

they are incompetent at running a successful government and maintaining hegemonic domination for western interests.

they're doing a fine job of screwing the world for their own gain, and/or working as sock puppets of foreign governments.

at no point was there ever a true belief, except for the "idjit" demographic, that trump would ever do anything meaningful in a governance sense.

edgyquant 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

So what does that say about their opposition who lost all three branches of government to them?

idle_zealot 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Populist evil polls better than technocratic evil.

bdangubic 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this is cyclical in america by design. see 2016 then 2018 than 2020 etc…

Tarsul 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not nefarious enough?

saulapremium 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

it says that playing by the rules means losing work when the other party doesn't.

munk-a 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Probably January 6th 2021