Isn’t there a proposed law to install these into every single new car?

sigmoid10 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nothing specific yet, but the legal groundwork has been laid both in the US and in the EU. Starting in July, all new cars sold in the EU will need to be able to fit after-market alcohol interlocks. In the US, interlocks are already mandatory for convicted DUIers in most states, but new cars will also have to come with factory installed drunk driving prevention technology in the coming years. We just don't know how far that mandate will go eventually.

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pas 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

obviously it will require an age verification, also you need to tell Google that you want to go somewhere 24 hours in advance, and Apple gets 30% of the revenue that gas stations make.

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londons_explore 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no security protocol though. It will be trivial to buy an interlock which always returns 'ok to drive'.

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overfeed 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Manufacturers are now encrypting Canbus traffic, voluntarily on current and future models.

Buying or selling tools designed to break the law is already illegal - trivial or not. If a driver gets a DUI and possess a NOOP interlock, they are getting an additional charge, and get to help am investigation into the illicit device supply chain.

	▲	m3047 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> Buying or selling tools designed to break the law is already illegal - trivial or not. I'm curious how this will play out. The "John Deer" exemption from the DMCA comes to mind, not sure if it's strictly for farm equipment or still in effect.

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kube-system 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is no proposal to require these janky ass aftermarket units, nor require any type of interlock at all.

NHTSA was directed to write some guidelines/rules around the implementation of passive impairment detection as OEM features. They have yet to do so, probably because it is flaky technology.

My guess is that the final rule implementation will be similar to the distracted driver detection that is already in many new vehicles.

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clickety_clack 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Old cars sound better and better every year now.

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nslsm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They’ll just make it illegal for you to drive them.

	▲	iso1631 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Its illegal to drive under the influence now. "Just making something illegal" doesn't work
	▲	mothballed 4 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Meanwhile in much of the USA registration laws aren't enforced. The last time my car was totaled (hit and run) the police didn't even show up for that either so my insurance company just ate the whole cost. DUI laws themselves are largely only enforced to the extent the accused consents to bothering to show up to court.

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bri3d 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not really the same. There are proposals to require OEMs to install driver monitoring, but it’s usually IR camera based rather than blow in a tube fuel cell based. These systems are probably going to be a mess but the technology isn’t really comparable to DUI interlock devices and the unreliability of those systems is orthogonal.

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astura 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, the 2021 infrastructure bill required automakers to install passive technology (passive meaning not requiring any specific actions from the driver) to prevent drunk driving by some future date. However, such technology doesn't really exist yet.

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AuryGlenz 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Eh, with lane keeping features I don’t think it’d be hard to at least detect someone swerving a lot. Granted, I don’t think that would detect people that aren’t super drunk, but it’s something.

I might be wrong on that assumption - I don’t drink, myself.

	▲	volkl48 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		As is commonly commented on by cartoonists: In plenty of places driving consistently within the lines might be the actual sign you're drunk. Because the roads/potholes are bad enough that you shouldn't be, if you value your suspension.