Proton has mail, calendar, drive, docs, sheets and more coming. Everything is done e2ee where possible. In case of mail, when the peer has no Proton, mail is indeed send plaintext.

Mail is stored e2ee on server, so not even Proton can read it. Proton mail has also made PGP very easy to use. It’s Swiss based and a foundation, not a corporation. They’ve done this so they cannot easily be bought.

It ticks most boxes in terms of privacy and security.

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exceptione 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Mail is stored e2ee on server

Exclusively, or do they keep caches around? I am asking since everything is clear text in the webmail. I wonder if they handle the rare case of proton to proton (encrypted) mail differently from regular unencrypted mail. I assume they have to decrypt a master key stored on the server with your password, and then decrypt every encrypted email on the fly on the server, or they have to send the master key to the client side.

Now think that through when you have thousands of searchable e-mails, sorted arbitrarily. I won't say it is impossible, but I think that maintaining plain text indexes rather than encrypted ones are really tempting.

	▲	frevib an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You’re post is full of misconceptions and mistakes. Mail is stored e2ee exculsively. The’ve been summoned to hand over mail many times, which they weren’t able to do. Quick search on Ecosia and find the articles. They don’t have a master key or else the whole e2ee story is a fad, which it isn’t. The Proton code is in Github so you can check how it works yourself. Part of the password is used to decrypt the data. Search is done client side. You have to download a big search index in order to have proper search. The iOS app doesn’t support downloading the index so search is limited there. Please think and do some work before you reply.

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Lapel2742 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Proton has mail, calendar, drive, docs, sheets and more coming

As of today, there is no official Proton Drive client for Linux that I'm aware of. There is unofficial support via Rclone, but it is still beta and I try to avoid mounting via Rclone anyway. I recall that it wasn't a really convincing experience when I tried it with OneDrive.

	▲	frevib 9 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Proton Drive for Linux (and Drive SDK) are announced for this year. Unfortunately not more specifically than “this year”.

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Bombthecat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Proton is moving out of Swiss, because of privacy concerns and new laws...

Just fyi

	▲	frevib an hour ago \| parent [-]
		They aren’t. They do have made their IT such that they can move very easily. If the Swiss government will pass worse privacy laws, Proton said they will move to Norway or Germany.