A couple things here:

1. This should have a 2022 tag

2. This is ripe "red pill" fodder and many of the comments here are "red pill" coded.

randusername a day ago | parent | next [-]

I guess it all depends on your perspective, I found the findings to be anti-red pill. Women with attractive faces lost their grade advantage in remote learning and men with attractive faces did not.

It suggests to me that good-looking men are socially valued for several reasons that are robust to distance education, but good-looking women are socially valued for their bodies if they are in proximity, the same way we value objects. Very limiting and frustrating.

If anyone in the red pill camp is looking to reexamine their perspectives in good-faith, "You Just Don't Understand: Men and Women in Conversation" (Tannen) is a good start.

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harperlee a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For the uninitiated like me:

The manosphere has its own distinct jargon.[31] A central tenet of the manosphere is the concept of the red pill, a metaphor borrowed from the film The Matrix. It concerns awakening men to the supposed reality that men are the oppressed gender in a society dominated by feminism

( From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manosphere#Jargon, I landed there from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_(disambiguation) )

	▲	JollySharp0 a day ago \| parent [-]
		They stole it from other groups online that simply used it to mean "I can see through the bullshit now". It got nothing particularly to do with the manosphere and the grifters in it.

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Insanity a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Only recently learned about the 'red pill' thing by watching the 'manosphere' documentary by Louis Theroux. For others unaware how it relates to the above comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manosphere.

The documentary was an interesting if somewhat unsettling thing to watch.

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JollySharp0 a day ago | parent [-]

You gotta be careful about Louis Theroux. I watched one of his old documentaries (late 90s IIRC) about South Africa with a guy who is a Afrikaner that I speak to semi-regularly on the internet. He said that while the people that Louis presented did exist, they were considered loons by the rest of the community.

Most of the documentarians from the BBC even some of the better ones like Adam Curtis, tend to distort things.

The "Red Pill" thing was stolen by these guys back in ~2018 from smaller political communities online that used it to just mean "I've been sold on an idea" usually people who were agorists / libertarians / ancaps.

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Insanity a day ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the heads up. For the most part he interviews people with hundreds of thousands or even millions of followers on social media. So not random nobodies, and at least some of the names I’d at least heard of (like the Tate brothers).

But as with anything, being a bit skeptic is a good thing.

	▲	JollySharp0 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I've not watched that particular documentary you've watch (and probably won't), but after re-watching some of the older docs knowing what I do now a few years ago, There were definitely sometimes when he misleading the audience. The most infamous one he did was The Jimmy Saville Weird Weekends. I am 90% certain that Louis knew he was Paedophile at the time. He even made sure to include a scene where one Jimmy's friends visited. The guy looked like a old stereotype of a paedophile. My friends and I burst out laughing while watching it. It was almost like it was something from Brass Eye. The Tate Brothers are just conmen and are criminals. I am from the UK and met people like Andrew Tate IRL. You can find them in every pub back in the late 90s/early 2000s. As for the other manosphere guys. I am familiar with many of these guys, as they typically do the rounds at some point on the podcast circuit on YouTube and various other sites. I like listening to long streams as I am frequently driving from one end of the country to another. I used to listen the dumpster fire stuff like Legion of Skanks, Drunken Peasants, The CuntStream etc. A lot of these dudes used to turn up on these sorts of shows, which were basically someone streaming Google Hangouts while they got drunk and high. A lot of the the Manosphere guys are normally involved with other grifters such as Laura Loomer, Nick Fuentes etc. and have a lot of cross over with loads of niche Z-tier E-celeb sub-cultures such as "The Dabbleverse" and "Da Sektur".

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nemomarx a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was wondering about the year. Are schools still doing online course work and exams now? I would think ai concerns would drive even more in person oral test / notebook testing stuff?

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readthemanual 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hi, sorry, what's a 'red pill'? Don't really keep up with the slang, sorry..

	▲	Izkata 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Its use here is a decade or more old. Originally referring to a movie over two decades old. The short version, seeing the world as it is instead of how it's fed to you.

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azan_ a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> 2. This is ripe "red pill" fodder

So what? We should act like attractiveness is not a huge privilege because of that? As with other privileges, I think it's important that we are aware of that.

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JollySharp0 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Almost all of the people in the Manosphere are grifters (moreoever almost any influencer online). If there was a study that said the complete opposite of what the study found, they would twist it to suit their agenda also.

Outside of social media these people effectively have very little if any influence and aren't worth worrying about.