| ▲ | aleph_minus_one 2 hours ago |
| > the complete 180 in direction the US is taking and descending in to authoritarianism A similar (though currently a little bit less marked) trend can also be observed for the EU and EU countries. |
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| ▲ | Maxion 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| AFAIK there's no murdering of citizens going on in any EU member country by the same countries government at the moment. |
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| ▲ | krzyk an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Trends are various. You had Poland remove rightwing goverment 2 years ago (yes and elect righwing president few months ago). Romania electing a European centric president. We can go on. EU is not a single country, not a single community of people. |
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| ▲ | s_dev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >(though currently a little bit less marked) Again this is a false equivalence, 'a little less marked' isn't close to imparting the true state of things and to be honest a little disingenuous. The EU is not in full motion to dismantle democracy across her 27 states. The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy. So 'ah yes but Hungary' doesn't persuade me even though I'll concede it's a problem for the EU. If Tisza is elected in April, Hungary will be on course to turn things around. So you're comparing 1 out of 27 to 50 out of 50 states. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > The US should it not turn this around in the midterms is finished as a liberal democracy. I wish there was an easy way for me to bet against the imminent fall of the United States as predicted by so many internet commenters. I don’t like what the current administration is doing, either, but I would readily bet against all of these “the end is just around the corner” or “the empire is dying” takes in a heartbeat. | | |
| ▲ | s_dev an hour ago | parent [-] | | I didn't say the US is finished, I said it was finished as a liberal democracy. It's already slid in to 'electoral democracy' instead of 'liberal democracy' the difference between the two is how 'rule of law' is prioritised and the balance between checks and balances between institutions is enforced. https://www.v-dem.net/documents/60/V-dem-dr__2025_lowres.pdf |
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| ▲ | sunaookami 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >The EU is not in full motion to dismantle democracy across her 27 states But it is? They forced Romania to do a re-election because they didn't like the candidate. And they still try to force Chat Control, try to bypass the unanimity rule and the EU commission gives itself more powers every day with authoritian laws like the DSA. As a European, I don't get the USA's EU-fetish. It's not better here than in the US. | | |
| ▲ | krzyk an hour ago | parent [-] | | EU did not force Romania. Romania itself annulled them because Russian intervention happened. |
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