| ▲ | kotaKat 3 hours ago |
| In a way it feels like a sick and twisted joke that GM is willing to help with this, especially how they've been treating their current EV lineup. BrightDrop's dead, the Bolt was loved and killed and brought back and killed again, they keep making questionable decisions with their infotainment and subscription models (no CarPlay, mandatory consumer Google Account and OnStar subscriptions), the best thing they even apparently sell right now has a Honda (re)badge on it... |
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| ▲ | sidewndr46 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Given GM's history with this vehicle, I'd assume any contact with them is an attempt to lay claim to ownership of the vehicle. There's no way I'd even communicate with them |
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| ▲ | twobitshifter an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I hadn’t heard that they killed the Bolt again! At least there is the 2027 model, which us starting to show up at dealers. With the Iran war, I expect much more interest in EVs right now, so this version of the Bolt may sell out fast. |
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| ▲ | kccqzy 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| GM’s Cadillac is doing alright with EVs: the Optiq, the Lyriq, the Vistiq are all selling well. |
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| ▲ | InUrNetz 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The anti CarPlay stance is a real deal killer for me. I put an aftermarket radio in my Chevy Express to get CarPlay, and have a long history of Chevy, GMC, and Buick ownership, but this one blocks me from buying a new GM car. |
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| ▲ | fullstop an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I've been satisfied with Android Automotive on my Equinox EV. I did see that there are USB dongles which can allegedly add Android Auto to the car. | | |
| ▲ | bluGill an hour ago | parent [-] | | My blazer doesn't have android auto either... where are these usb things, I might be interested. I really want my phone to respond to 'ok google' not the car saying 'this needs a subscription' | | |
| ▲ | fullstop an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | These cars are sold with data plans which last quite a few years. What model year is your Blazer? I think that my Equinox has app access for 3 years and maps / google assistant for 8 years. I've tested tethering with my phone and it works with that, so I have a path forward once the built-in subscription lapses. This is the one that I saw: https://evplay.io/shop/ev-play-lite-gm It's kind of expensive, and there's a non-zero chance that GM does something to block it. | | |
| ▲ | bluGill a minute ago | parent [-] | | 2024. I refused their privacy policy, so that might be why I'm getting nothing. I don't drive much so I'm worth more to GM than they are to me. |
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| ▲ | stetrain an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Annoyingly "Android Auto" and "Android Automotive" are completely different things. Android Auto is where you can connect your phone to the car and your phone projects onto the car's display with apps and navigation. Android Automotive is when the car itself is running Android Automotive for its infotainment OS, meaning it has access to a limited Android App Store to install apps natively into the car's infotainment system and you can sign in with your Google account. Some cars with Android Automotive also support CarPlay and Android Auto on top of it, but GM has decided to disable those features, meaning you have to use the built-in Android Automotive system to manage your media streaming apps and pay GM for the data access plan. |
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| ▲ | bluGill an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have a blazer ev without it and I agree it is the biggest negative. If I drove 8 hours a day their onstar is better, but if you use a car a reasonable amount it isn't worth a subscription (or setting everything up that is already in the phone) | |
| ▲ | wlesieutre 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Honda Prologue is an option if you really like the Ultium SUVs, sadly only a Blazer sized rebadge and no Equinox. I do wonder what the outlook for that is now, they were supposed to be a shorter term bridge until Honda had their own EVs but Honda recently killed a bunch of EV plans so maybe the GM partnership sticks around a while? |
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| ▲ | mediumdave an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Bolt will be back in 2027. I'm a huge fan of the Bolt, and I love my 2019. It's a very practical car, and has surprisingly decent range. |
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| ▲ | sanex 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You've got it reversed. Honda is rebadging the equinox ev. GM. |
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| ▲ | wlesieutre 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Actually a Blazer, not an Equinox | |
| ▲ | kotaKat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, and it's still the best thing GM can even build right now. It's an Equinox without GM's bullshit and even includes CarPlay in the package. | | |
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