I find it pretty ironical that people seem to want to move to Von der Leyens vision of the future. As a EU citizen, my trust in what recently has been going down is almost non-existant.

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ludvigk 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I guess when the alternative is Trump's vision of the future ... - at least I know what I would choose.

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CalRobert 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I agree, and moved to the EU from the US for related reasons, but Von der Leyen's entire strategy for handling Trump seems to be immediate capitulation to horrendously one-sided deals, which doesn't give a lot of confidence.

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mytailorisrich 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Trump will be gone in 2028 and policies may radically change depending on who replaces him. There is no change on the horizon in the EU when Von Der Leyen is replaced (she is just the current public face of the blob...)

	▲	konradx 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Do you believe this ? Even if the Americans get out of their zombie existence and get out to vote (on another candidate), I cannot imagine Trump will accept an election loss. (A reminder: The US has had a 24% drop in the Liberal Democracy Index score in just one year and your supreme court is owned)

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nslsm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Von der Leyen has made it clear the values of the EU are exactly the same as those of the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEbQoT3Xlho

	▲	s_dev an hour ago \| parent [-]
		That video is from 11 months ago, long before Trump was elected for his second term. Once was an anomaly. Twice is nearly a pattern but not an anomaly. Third time is an established pattern.