| ▲ | pschastain 3 hours ago |
| Is there really? Governments routinely go against the ECHR and the ECJ, and do nothing to rectify past violations when ruled against. On a national level, sure. |
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| ▲ | pjc50 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Which cases are you talking about? Compliance with actual court rulings is pretty high. |
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| ▲ | pschastain 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Want a particularly egregious example? Here: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:62... Police in many EU countries was systematically searching suspects phones without mandatory due process. This was prima facie illegal, everyone involved knew it. They did it regardless. Yeah, this decision eventually resulted in many governments issuing new guidance, and some countries rewriting their national legislation. Is that a big victory for the rule of law? I think not, the national governments should not be knowingly violating the ECHR in the first place. | |
| ▲ | rithdmc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It took Ireland years from an ECHR ruling to rule buggery was not unlawful, and Ireland was given a special exemption to the EUs abortion laws which remained in place for 26 years. |
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| ▲ | input_sh 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Considering who we're comparing it to when discussing this topic: absolutely. Not even a question. Anyone claiming otherwise is delusional at best. |
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| ▲ | Levitz 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | A whole lot of websites are inaccessible from my country when there's football on, due to a judicial order meant to curb piracy. The whole deal with Chat Control is also not to be forgotten. I do think you guys see this place with rose tinted glasses sometimes. | | |
| ▲ | input_sh 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Does that football scenario mean that the rule of law doesn't exist or that it does exist and is being enforced? I agree with you that both of those laws are stupid, but that's a completely separate discussion to what I'm claiming above. | | |
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