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AnotherGoodName 11 hours ago

>some gen Xers don't say hello..

That's entirely pragmatic in this data collecting age. Being silent and hanging up as soon as you hear the spam won't get you marked as a phone line that has a human on the other end nor do you risk your voice being recorded. If you're silly enough to say your name when answering you'll just end up with text and email that is now personalised with your name (it's much faster to identify and hang up when their best intro is to say "hello who am i speaking to?" on a single person line click).

I don't know anyone in my age bracket (45) who doesn't do this let alone those younger. It's entirely understood and expected. Fuck anyone who says it's rude and those of an age particularly prone to falling for scams (70+ and 15under) should be encouraged to do this. You should be telling your kids "never say anything on picking up, let the caller to your phone identify themselves! They could be scammers trying to get your details such as your name".

I feel all these "OMG the kids don't say hello anymore they have no etiquette!!!" statements are either from the clueless or from spammers frustrated that it's much harder to get through if you don't know their name.

nekusar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Theres a class of spam calls that start with what sounds like a pitch rising "bloop". 100% of the time this is a spam/scam.

Not sure what system they're using, or why there's that characteristic BLOOP.

kotaKat 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

The 'bloop' is a beep for the other person being dumped onto the call. Typically in a call center/contact center system like this, the agent's headset is always live. When the 'bloop' comes in, it's an audible cue for the agent to actually pick up themselves as their ringtone on the line. At the end of the call they hit 'release' and wait for the next 'bloop' to go live again.

Animats 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I never answer my land line with "Hello", because predictive dialers recognize that as a go signal for telemarketers. I usually answer my land line with my name, business style. Cell phone is answered with "Hi, ... " depending on who's calling.

apparent 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> You should be telling your kids "never say anything on picking up, let the caller to your phone identify themselves! They could be scammers trying to get your details such as your name".

How does saying "hello" give scammers your details such as your name?

vineyardmike 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I was younger, adults used to answer the phone with "Hello, this is MyName, who am I speaking with?"

Pragmatically, even basic words from your voice can be used to estimate your age, gender, and geographic region (local accents).

But also read other comments, people are saying they answer their phone by stating their name, so plenty clearly use it as a greeting.

blululu 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the op was maybe on a bit of a tear and misspoke, but the sentiment is correct. These days even saying hello can be used to make a decent voice clone with some reasonable (say 50%) chance that it is you (your phone number is linked to a ton of information). I would personally try to minimize my exposure to this risk even if it is somewhat paranoid.

TheSpiceIsLife 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I go further.

Even if I am expecting a call from a service provider, insurance, bank, whatever…

They’ll want you to identify yourself, name, dob, address.

Never do this to unverified inbound callers.

And how do you verify an inbound caller is who thru claim they are and not a scammer?

You don’t. You tell them you never give out PII to inbound callers as they are indistinguishable from scammers.

Then call the them on their publicly listed number and deal with the issue from there.

We need to encourage service providers to stop doing that as it is exactly leads to people being more easily scammed.

phyzome 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Weird, I've never encountered this.

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