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Maybe ripping up the international plan to keep Iran from gaining nuclear weapons during his first term wasn’t the best idea.

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dotancohen a day ago | parent [-]

That plan would have expired ten years after January 2016. In other words, already excited two months ago.

It was a ten year plan, not a permanent plan.

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macintux 17 hours ago | parent [-]

That's still ten years of collaboration that could have built greater trust, led to a new agreement, or worst case provided enough evidence to take a more precise military action instead of bombing girls schools.

	▲	dotancohen 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Build greater trust? The Iranian regime's identity is based on anti-American rhetoric. They fund Hamas and Hezbollah because Israel is an American ally. They say this in their marches and their speeches and their rallies. You are suggesting that these people change their entire identity to suit your notion that the world should be peaceful. Would you suggest that a metalhead not wear leather because you don't like loud music? Would you suggest that a gay man "be normal" because "God doesn't like gays"? Identity is not something you change in other people. Unless you're some colonial conquerer forcing your culture on others.

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vkou 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Should nuclear weapons be kept out of the hands of people who threaten neighbouring and allied countries with military force? Who threaten distant countries with destruction if they don't comply with their demands, which change every day? Who have a support base that makes up 30%+ of the country, and chants absolutely insane shit at their rallies?

By any rational, third-party standard, such a country should not have nuclear weapons.

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zzrrt a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But Trump already obliterated their nuclear capacity last year! Were they lying then or now?

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engcoach a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That’s going to age as well as weapons of mass destruction in Iraq did. The reality is that only Israel was threatened by Iran and the US is caught up in it simply because we act as their vassal.

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dotancohen a day ago | parent | next [-]

Then how do you explain the rockets taking on Saudi Arabia? Baharain? UAE? Even Diego Garcia - which is further from Iran than Israel is. Just as far as Europe is. So they were only developing weapons that could target Israel?

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donkeybeer 11 hours ago | parent [-]

France has an ICBM system with a range of 10000 km. How do you explain it? Were they developing weapons to target the USA?

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dragonwriter 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, it was more to target Soviet satellites in Latin America which might, in a foreseeable scenario, host Soviet missiles (also, to hit the Soviet Far East, which would be even more likely to host Soviet missiles.)

But it also wasn't not to have the capacity to target the US; if France implicitly trusted the US they wouldn't have opted out of the NATO unified military command for 43 years as well as developing their own nuclear deterrent.

	▲	donkeybeer 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I gave the example to show dotancohens absolutely ridiculous insinuation. All militaries always want to expand their capabilities. To say it somehow means Iran wants to target Europe is absolutely ridiculous.

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terminalshort a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The fact that Iran has now launched missiles at civilian areas in a dozen or so countries unrelated to the war shows that this is clearly false.