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nandomrumber a day ago

Would anyone argue that the TSA, Theatre Security Agency, shouldn’t be defunded?

Macha a day ago | parent | next [-]

Replacing it with nothing in an orderly fashion? Probably a good move.

Replacing them with ICE as a political gesture? Not so much

derf_ a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The TSA is responsible for more than just airports. As someone with family who works (worked) on port security in the maritime division, I would argue that Chesterton's Fence [0] applies here just as much as anywhere else.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._K._Chesterton#Chesterton's_...

stvltvs 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many of us were alive when the TSA was created. It's not a mystery why it's there. (Mostly so politicians could say they did something to improve air travel security.)

lazide 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Well, and it did do something - make the experience more consistently mediocre. Which is indeed something.

Previously, some airports were even more of a nightmare, and others were actually pleasant.

rendaw a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Ports had no security before 2001? What does TSA do there?

LeChuck 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ports did indeed have very little security before 2001 (compared to now). See ISPS code: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Ship_and_Port_Fa...

5555624 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Coast Guard has long been responsible for port security. TSA does administer TWIC, the Transportation Worker Identification Credential program, which is a biometric identification system go access to secure port facilities.

rawfan 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, it was actually a lot of fun. I worked in a port-related area and often we would just cruise around the port and look at the ships. If it looked cool we would yell loudly and ask if we could come aboard. The seamen were usually thrilled to show us around their massive ships and would often invite us to a barbecue. With the introduction of the ISPS all of that was over in an instant.

tombert a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's an argument for that, though I think replacing it with Trump's basically-unregulated private military is pretty concerning.

hmmokidk a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This isn’t that.

vkou 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It shouldn't be defunded, because as stupid as it and the 2001 politics that spawned it were, anything MAGA will replace it with in 2026 would be way worse.

mlrtime 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Depends on what defunded means... if it means pay/control shifting from a Federal agency to local, then yes.

Maning, airports / municipalities should be funding this. If airports were in control the the user experience, I bet you would see a lot better outcomes.

vkou 9 hours ago | parent [-]

> If airports were in control the the user experience, I bet you would see a lot better outcomes.

Would you? It's not like I have a choice of which airport to fly out of.

Maybe New Yorkers have options, but for the rest of us, there is only one that is an option.

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