| ▲ | dzonga a day ago |
| why are common people paying for the incompetence of a gvt. to not be political this lies at the heart of principles, morals, meritocracy values that the current gvt lacks & things that drove america forward. |
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| ▲ | tremon a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| That's because the common people voted for the incompetent. Not being political either, of course. |
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| ▲ | dotancohen a day ago | parent [-] | | In what part of the world does the populace not suffer for the incompetence of their leaders? St. Petersburg? Ramallah? Port Au Prince? | | |
| ▲ | tremon 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | The obvious and flippant answer to that would be "the parts of the world that do not have incompetent leaders". But that will only lead to the incredulous claiming that all governments are equally incompetent (yet some are more incompetent than others) and that's not a discussion I'm inclined to entertain. | | |
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| ▲ | hsbauauvhabzb a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| People vote for the current government. I’m not sure why you would expect others’ to pay for americas internal messes, we’re already busy dealing with the external ones. |
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| ▲ | terminalshort a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because it's the government they voted in. Typical American take. Wanting no responsibility for the adverse effects of your decision. |
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| ▲ | tombert a day ago | parent [-] | | I'm American, I didn't vote for Trump, so I don't feel like it's me dealing with adverse effects of my decisions. I did vote for Eric Adams in NYC, and while Eric Adams didn't advertise blatant corruption as part of his campaign, insofar that I can be blamed for his idiocy and bribes I will accept responsibility. I didn't vote for him the second time around and I feel foolish for voting for him the first time. | | |
| ▲ | intended a day ago | parent [-] | | Democracy is a collective thing. Americans may strongly believe in individualism, but democracy is a collective responsibility. Its kind of a key design feature. | | |
| ▲ | tombert 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | I guess? I mean I actively did not want this president. I actively voted for someone else. I tried to get people to not vote for him, though I doubt I was successful at that task. I suppose I do still pay my taxes and as such I'm still kind of funding this stupid unnecessary war, but I don't think it's entirely fair to judge me just because I live in a country where demagoguery appears to be in vogue. Don't get me wrong, I know I'll deal with the consequences of other people's bad decisions here, that's just the price of democracy (or whatever the hell we have in the US), but I have a hard time accepting that it's my fault since I did what little I could to stop it. | | |
| ▲ | terminalshort 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | tombert 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's literally the opposite of what I said if you read the second paragraph. I understand that ultimately I have to deal with the consequences of the group's action, not just mine. If the group decided to elect a convicted fraudster and alleged sex pest, I don't like it but that's just what I'll have to deal with. If something bad happens because of it, I don't have to like it but I have to deal with it. If something good happens, I probably will like it but I have to deal with it. But I don't take responsibility for either the good or bad things that happened from a president I didn't vote for. If it turns out that Trump is actually much smarter than I think he is and everything ends up going swimmingly because of his seemingly-incompetent decision making, that would be great but I would concede that I did nothing to enable that. If something bad happens, I will also say I did nothing to enable that. It really isn't hypocritical. |
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| ▲ | refurb a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The federal government hasn't passed a budget because the Democrats are blocking it. They feel it's worth the political gamble to cause Americans pain and that it'll turn on Trump. There you go - mystery solved. |
