> How nice it must be to be able to just dismiss these things.

I don't know anyone in the US in real life who is happy with the current situation, including people who voted for Trump. The cheer leaders are only visible online.

The people who voted for Harris are saying "we told you so," and the others are saying "he conned us."

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encrypted_bird a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure where you live, but try going to some of the super-small towns in the Midwest. I unfortunately still see people openly wearing MAGA hats and have MAGA flags on the flag poles in their yards.

Trust me, as sad as it is, those people still exist.

	▲	SanjayMehta 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Not in the US, just reporting what I'm seeing on signal/WA groups consisting of mostly former classmates and colleagues. A sample size in the low hundreds. These are CA, OR and WA centric with exactly one guy in TN.

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cogman10 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For the people I know, it's mostly just been quiet silence, they don't really want to talk about it (and I don't force it). I know this is uncomfortable for them.

Outside that, what I've noticed in my area is a whole lot less trucks driving around with cartoonishly large American flags and pro-trump bumper stickers. Even homes that proudly flew the "Trump 2024" flags and flew the 2020 flags for a long time have taken those down.

Republicans here (Idaho) have been gleefully touching every 3rd rail (Medicaid, public school funding, public lands). I don't really have hope that the electorate will do anything about it, but who knows. I've never really seen such bold actions against the citizenry.

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calvinmorrison a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There are petty peevish folks too, to quote myself lately

October 2025

"I believe Trumps gutting of institutions of learning, culture, democracy, law is punishment for the Branch Covidians. I believe this punishment must continue for some time until the lesson is learned about abuse of power"

Should we reconcile this great nation, not balkanize, not be in an antebellum period, not be a Weimar republic, and walk back the rubicon and cross into more quiet waters, we must turn our attention to what made this country great. What has made it unique? That our constitution is explicit about what freedoms and rights are reserved for the people and are not to be trampled, touched, or looked at by the government. State, Local, or Federal. Our founding fathers and great men who preceded us recognized government as a necessary evil, one that must be kept at bay, not used as a violent tool to achieve outcomes. All of these institutions must walk back their power, give the rights back to the people, to be truly afraid of the populace. Each tax collector must shiver when he goes to work, and each police officer be fully aware that a single parking ticket is an act of violence.

All said, I am afraid, we have lost that. And now we must face the future hoping that someday, another group of smart men can realize something so unique, so right, so innately just and moral was achieved by the signing of the constitution that it must be tried again.

Calvin - 2022

	▲	mindslight 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		"Branch Covidians" is just buying into more Trumpist reality-rejecting nonsense. A president is supposed to lead us all through a crisis, not turn it into a needlessly divisive issue as if he doesn't know how to do anything but campaign. Less than half the states had stay at home orders with the force of law ("lockdowns"). The states with the most authoritarian overreactions were red states full of social-media-addled nutters rebelling against reality - when citizens actively work to help spread a pandemic, is it any wonder that the bureaucrats respond even stronger in the only way they know how? What reconciliation actually requires is for the maggots to take some responsibility and realize this is exactly where reactionary media has been leading them by the nose for the past four decades - destruction of the Constitutionally-limited government in favor of rule by unaccountable corporations. Signed, a libertarian who actually believes in those lofty ideals you're fallaciously invoking.

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stavros a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't understand the "he conned us" stance. He was literally saying all these things before getting elected. He wasn't being coy about it, we all knew it would be terrible, and here we are. What was the con exactly?

If there's one thing you can't accuse Trump of, it's ever masking how utterly nonsensical he is.

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beedeebeedee a day ago | parent | next [-]

Saying “he conned us” is easier for people to accept than being introspective, taking responsibility and experiencing ego dissolution.

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mindslight 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Grump said all of these things before getting elected, but he also said their exact opposites as well. That he can say blatant lies while having a "charisma" such that people hear what they want to hear is exactly how a con man operates. Hence, they were conned.

However, the responsibility still arises as half of their fellow citizens were telling them that they were being conned. But rather than listening to the critics they actively remained ignorant while gloating about "liberal tears" and so on.

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pasquinelli a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

i thought he was more anti-war

	▲	SanjayMehta 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		He was never anti-war. There are videos of him ranting about Kharg Island dating back to the 1980s. (I wonder if he had friends/relatives in the hostage crisis.)

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SanjayMehta 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't know why you're getting downvoted, but I believe the con was the "no wars" line. He was supposed to stop the Ukraine war in 24 hours, remember but he seemed to just lose interest in it.