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jazzpush2 a day ago

Has there been any official WH note on the need for this war, yet? Or objectives?

daheza a day ago | parent | next [-]

They rebranded to the department of war but its not a war. We definitely don't want war, but we want all soldiers to be warriors. Still not warmongering.

disqard 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Excuse me, it's an "excursion", not a war.

mememememememo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This war is not a war. Not a.war war. Just a "war". No war has been declared.

refulgentis a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's a special operation

briantakita a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We already won. Are you tired of winning yet?

briansm a day ago | parent [-]

I keep reading this, is it meant to be a joke? What is being won?

tencentshill 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's the only thing he knows. Declare victory, never admit losing anything, ever.

"Dobias later said that young Trump “always had to be number one, in everything. He was a conniver, even then. A real pain in the ass. He would do anything to win” (D’Antonio, Never Enough, 43)."

Moomoomoo309 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They're referencing Trump's constant insistence that we won or are currently winning. He never, ever admits defeat or concedes any ground, everything is a victory, nothing is a loss. Trump also famously said (paraphrasing) "We're gonna win so much, we'll be tired of winning".

znpy a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It identifies as a special operation and people should just respect that.

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bdangubic a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

20 or so far, there is a new one each day

nclin_ a day ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, they are flooding the zone with many alternative explanations so that they're both all deniable, and all accessible to anyone who finds just one of them convincing. This is a strategy.

giwook a day ago | parent | prev [-]

And all of them different from the last and/or contradicting each other at times.

It's like throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

nandomrumber a day ago | parent | next [-]

Probably spaghetti.

cogman10 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

All I know is we are accomplishing them and we'll be done in 3 weeks to 3 years. Also, this isn't a woke war, which I was worried about.

dotancohen a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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engcoach a day ago | parent | next [-]

Why do they chant that? Is it due to acting against US interests in favor of another state, maybe one in the Levant?

nozzlegear a day ago | parent | next [-]

What are you saying? Speak plainly so we don't have to guess.

engcoach 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Israel

dotancohen 6 hours ago | parent [-]

The Iranians chant Death To Israel because Israel is a Middle Eastern ally of the United States, who propped up the Shah. This is why the US is the Big Satan, and Israel is the Little Satan. This was all spelled out clearly by Khomeini.

You have the cause and the effect backwards. I suggest reading more about Khomeini, you might like his viewpoints. He decreed that the unmarried female protesters must be raped before being executed, so that they would not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

dotancohen a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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dwb a day ago | parent | next [-]

It’s bold to get presumptuously snooty about people’s understanding of history, and even mention the closeness of the Shah with the US, without acknowledging how the Shah came to power…! To say nothing of the US’s more recent interventions in other Muslim-majority countries. Do you not think that might go further to explain the discontent, especially considering Khomeini’s comments that you refer to, than some nebulous idea of “values”?

dotancohen 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Fine, the US propped up the Shah. I didn't see it as relevant but there you go. Khomeini himself didn't see it as too relevant either, as he barely mentioned it after the revolution. He did state that the US was the source of all Muslims' problems, many times, but he did not mention the US support of the Shah as part of his regular rallies.

kashunstva a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> secular society based on Christian values

Oddly the Christian deity is mentioned exactly zero times in the Constitution.

dotancohen 17 hours ago | parent [-]

I stated that the United States is based on Christian values. Not that the United States is a Christian state.

Do you value separation of state and religious authority? Women's rights? Minority rights? Human dignity? Equality before the law? Sanctity of life? Individual moral responsibility? Monogamous marriage? The objective study of history? Fair trial? Witnesses at trial? Tolerance of alternative viewpoints?

Those are all Christian values. For what it's worth, I'm not Christian.

MSM a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Bombings will continue until you stop hating us"

chneu a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They were trying to gain energy independence, not develop nuclear weapons. This has been confirmed by plenty of independent auditors. Drunk Hegseth is a literal white nationalist Christian with a crusades tattoo.

You really want to be on the side of a white nationalist who openly says all Muslims are the enemy and openly advocates for christian prophecies that require the US to submit to Israel? These aren't conspiracies. Hegseth openly believes all this stuff.

JKCalhoun 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"What is North Korea, Alex?"

"Ooooh, I'm sorry…"