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echelon_musk 6 days ago

How's that gonna pan out with Motorola?

HybridStatAnim8 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Motorola likely wont sell devices with GOS preinstalled in those regions.

NotPractical 6 days ago | parent [-]

Wasn't most of the hype surrounding the Motorola partnership based on the idea that you'd be able to get a device with GrapheneOS pre-installed, boosting the legitimacy of GrapheneOS as a competitor to Google Android? Sure, "GrapheneOS adds several more supported devices" is cool and all, but it's not nearly as exciting...

HybridStatAnim8 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

No. The bare minimum is that Motorola provides the needed baseline hardware security requirements to their future devices. Everything else is just a bonus. There could be green-boot support and/or preinstalled devices, but thats not a necessity. GOS benefits with an official hardware platform, potentially early partner access to AOSP source code, input on hardware and firmware decisions, and Motorola benefits by potentially having GOS features, better hardware security, and making tons of money from alternate OS users, GOS or otherwise.

sammysep 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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estimator7292 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If Motorola have a problem with it, they obviously aren't the right partner for Graphene.

Graphene obviously won't want to partner with a company that immediately bends over backwards for this kind of puritanical nonsense.

HybridStatAnim8 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Motorola wont break the law. They just wont sell preinstalled devices, if preinstalled devices was even on the table for 2027.

izacus 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Motorola will obviously have a problem with violating the law in several US states.

Like, what's unclear here? Do you seriously say that corporations should just ignore laws which they don't like?

fwn 6 days ago | parent [-]

If shipping a specific device configuration to the US is illegal, Motorola should not ship this specific device configuration to the US.

I do not think our parent is suggesting otherwise.

AFAIK Motorola and GrapheneOS are not merging, they are getting into a partnership. They do not have to think or do exactly the same.

Apple can comply with both CCP and US demands at the same time without a problem. I am sure Motorola can adjust their services to the markets they are working in, as well.

izacus 6 days ago | parent [-]

Motorola is pretty much only present in US these days, why would they build a product that can't be sold in their primary market?

Demanding that OSes outright violate the law because you disagree with your own elected government is pretty insane.

HybridStatAnim8 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

They are not building a product that cannot be sold in their primary market. They are not designing GrapheneOS devices, they are improving existing devices to meet GOS requirements. There will still be an OEM OS for those devices. Preinstalled GOS devices can simply not be sold there.

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prmoustache 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can't speak about other continents but Motorola smartphones are at least available all over Europe so your initial statement is incorrect.

Brian_K_White 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your arguments show a lack of the least imagination, let alone simple reasoning.

There are countless ways to satisfy any regulation while still doing whatever you actually want to do.

The very most obvious is simply sell the device, in the affected areas, with any sort of os that meets the letter of the law in that area.

If it's also easy for the user to install something else once it becomes their property, well that's the new owner's business atthat point, Motorola did their part and complied with everything required.

No one needs to demand a company violate anything. That is just a silly argument to even try to make. Calling people insane for things they never said nor even implied is what's insane.

dmantis 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Quick google shows that in 2024 half of the Motorola phone sales were in LATAM, especially Brazil. What makes you say that the key market is the US?

throwoutA556789 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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raverbashing 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

More likely they will just add their own age widget themselves