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cies 17 hours ago

Which is kind of understandable as Wayland tries to be more secure: and thus in Wayland not all keyboard events are propagated to all applications (that's what X11 does). I think it's a good idea to put security first in this iteration of FLOSS desktop technology.

MarsIronPI 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Phoenix[0] has some good ideas about how X11 could be made more secure without breaking backwards compatibility. I don't understand what was so fundamentally broken about X11 as a protocol that it required a replacement protocol.

We can argue about limitations of X.org's implementation of the X server, but, as demonstrated by Phoenix, X.org doesn't have to be the only X server implementation.

[0]: https://git.dec05eba.com/phoenix

javier2 15 hours ago | parent [-]

I have no idea, but my impression was that basically nobody wanted to put in work on X11 anymore.

IshKebab 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well kind of. It'll be several decades before we see any practical benefits - at the moment once you have local execution you can do anything you want - accessing other apps or even root is trivial.