| ▲ | muglug 14 hours ago |
| These people are not interested the love and charity parts of Christianity. They are interested only in the hate and doom parts of it. |
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| ▲ | throw310822 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Note that Christianity is a religion that was grafted onto a previous one that is entirely different by intended recipients and worldview. Christianity is a universalistic religion centered on mercy and forgiveness, ancient Judaism is a transactional pact between God and one People: God gives the land and protection, the People worships God and follows the rules. I was in a church a few days ago and it was almost funny how the priest read from the Old Testament and turned a quite literal passage about the People of Israel, protection from regional enemies and the promise of a kingdom into a metaphor about all humanity and the fatherly care of God towards all. Unfortunately Christianity decided to incorporate the Old Testament and read it as a metaphor and a prophecy, and this allows some Christians to revert to a language of violent conquer and triumph against the enemies whenever it suits them. |
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| ▲ | constantius 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The strain(s) of Christianity we have today are in large part the result of chance and power plays, it's a fascinating history. More to your point: the Old and New Testaments are so different that a significant proportion of Christian apologetics consists in finding ever more convoluted mental hoops to explain this away. A few centuries after JC, one of the dominant interpretations, Gnosticism, held that the two Testaments were about two different gods. The old god was angry, cruel, capricious, sadistic, while the new god, as described by Jesus, was the exact opposite. One ordered populations to be killed for nothing, the other turned the other cheek. The Gnostics thought that the first god was the demiurge, the god of matter (like Morgoth), while the second god was the supreme god (like Iluvatar). A much simpler solution to this dilemma. Unfortunately, the non-Gnostics were better at organised religion/politics, and the rest is history. | | |
| ▲ | reasonabl_human 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Do you have any recommended reading on the history of Christianity? I find it challenging to find unbiased / purely historical explanations of how we got to this point. |
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| ▲ | joemazerino 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Thiel is not a Christian? |
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| ▲ | resoluteteeth 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He is going around talking about biblical prophecies and the antichrist so regardless of whether you consider thiel a Christian or whether he considers himself a Christian the comment you are responding to is entirely accurate in saying he is interested "only in the hate and doom parts of [Christianity]". | | |
| ▲ | dmix 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Peter grew up in an Evangelical household which probably shaped his framing/worldview. As an adult he still identifies as a 'heterodox protestant'. Which in America usually means he's not really Christian, he just picks and chooses some ideas from it. The way he uses 'Antichrist' to talk about politics and tech (not just a single person or religious entity) seems to confirm that idea. | | |
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| ▲ | tastyface 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Thiel is a heretic. | |
| ▲ | LightBug1 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | But he is a wanker. Does that help? | |
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| ▲ | cineticdaffodil 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | He is someone who plugged his fingers into the power outlett that is the final mile of the enlightenment. Those guys all have that same shellshocked face and the same mission: to get humanity stable, progress is every step towards a sort of global "home for the handicapped and prone to selfdestruct" everything else is just soothing sounds. Christianity is supported because it has shown itself to be the only culture capable to produce working institutions and a rule of law. He is all for that, as the alternative is basically permawar with nukes. Every step taken, every plan, every endavour is part of a scenario tree with fallbacks towards that goal. Selfsurveilance, a hardened education system (ai), if you start to look at the world from that angle a ton of what they do, starts to make way more sense. Also from that point of view, money itself constantly looses value, as the scenario falls down the three. Its capabilities increasing the odds that are valuable. The last billionaire gets a potato for all of it. His anti-christ is the loop deformation damage of humanity, a species stuck in a low tech environment, unable to ever regain complexity even if history throws it a mounttain of ressources. Look at he middle east for understanding. | | |
| ▲ | oa335 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > He is someone who plugged his fingers into the power outlet that is the final mile of the enlightenment. The fact that you used this analogy is amusing - something so obviously stupid and self-destructive being recast as a necessary step towards enlightenment does indeed reveal a lot about Thiel’s intentions and the attitude of his boosters. | |
| ▲ | text0404 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Christianity is supported because it has shown itself to be the only culture capable to produce working institutions and a rule of law. I'm really sick of these christian nationalists deciding that their chosen religion is the best thing for humanity and forcing it onto the rest of the world. "Working institutions" and "rule of law" for whom? > Look at he middle east for understanding. How comically reductive. Would you care to delve into the history of the middle east and of christian/western intervention? > He is someone who plugged his fingers into the power outlett Children harm themselves by plugging their fingers into power outlets. That's why we teach them not to. |
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| ▲ | SilverElfin 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s because it helps their addiction to wealth. By saying that being against economic progress is the biggest evil, he’s saying everyone must say yes to what these tech elites push onto the world. Like you might dislike 1 million satellites polluting the night sky but don’t speak up against it unless you’re the antichrist. Religion is also leverage for their goals. Like they support evangelical driven age verification for porn (defacto porn ban) because it lets them push age verification more broadly, to let them advertise more. |
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| ▲ | diego_moita 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Are you referring to Thiel, the Catholic Church or both? |
