I notice you're not critical of Iran's military intentionally firing on civilians. Why?

applfanboysbgon 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Because that was not the subject of the conversation. Iran's military killing civilians is bad, but that does not somehow justify also killing their civilians. WTF even is your logic?

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trimethylpurine 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It certainly doesn't justify killing civilians.

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mhb 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The US made a mistake while attempting to ensure that insane theocrats who are close to building nuclear weapons are not able to. The fondest wish of the religious lunatics in charge of Iran (and we know this because they have told us) is to annihilate the US and Israel. They have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe.

These dots don't seem hard to connect.

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applfanboysbgon 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> who are close to building nuclear weapons

This is a lie. Not only is it not the stated purpose of the war, even Netanyahu himself went out of the way to say that Iran had no remaining capability to accomplish this and that was not why they were invaded.

> They currently have demonstrated missiles that can reach Europe.

The US demonstrated its missiles can reach schools in Iran. Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US?

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mhb 10 hours ago | parent [-]

The war has multiple goals.

> Why are we more concerned with scaremongering about what hypothetical evil acts Iran could commit while downplaying the evil acts that are actually being propagated by the US?

Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts. And between the scales of different actions.

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applfanboysbgon 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> The war has multiple goals.

One of which is explicitly not Iran's nuclear capacity, as confirmed by one of the heads of state invading.

> Because normal people can understand the difference between a mistake and intentional acts.

Normal people can also understand that some things are too serious to pass off as "oopsie". We have terms like "manslaughter" or "aggravated murder" for when your reckless negligence leads to loss of human life. You are still responsible for the murders you cause when you take actions with intent that you know will lead to people dying without intending any specific one of those deaths.

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testaccount28 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

either way, you may wish to know: your poor argumentation shores up support for the war.

	▲	oa335 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You may disagree with the idea that militaries are responsible for civilians they kill regardless of intent, but it is not poor argumentation. And the fact that it triggers you to support the war reveals more about you than you may intend.

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trimethylpurine 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Military action always has civilian casualties. All you can do is hope and make effort to reduce them. And I'm glad we're on the side that does that.

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applfanboysbgon 6 hours ago | parent [-]

You are absolutely not on the side that does that. The US has killed millions of civilians over the past century in all of the wars it's partaken in and pardons its own war criminals, on the very rare occasion it bothers to try them in the first place. Fuck me American propaganda is in another world.

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beedeebeedee 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Israeli propaganda. America is fighting this war but not leading it

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trimethylpurine 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Iran advertises and brags about how many civilians they've killed and literally states its purpose is to export revolution.

But America is the bad guy? No... Not even close. Do you see Americans cheering for the dead school children?

I'm watching Iran cheering for the dead children in countries around the world every day for 40 years.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even comparing.

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oa335 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Do you see Americans cheering for the dead school children? I'm watching Iran cheering for the dead children in countries around the world every day for 40 years.

I agree, people should be ashamed of supporting killing civilians and any society that supports that should be criticized.

I’m not familiar with any instances of Iranis celebrating civilian deaths though? Do you have any examples?

Maybe something like this;

https://youtube.com/shorts/2jTZwSPdK8I

https://www.timesofisrael.com/watch-far-right-israelis-celeb...

	▲	trimethylpurine an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied. And yes. From your same source (Israeli news) for added effect. https://www.thejewishstar.com/stories/palestinian-tradition-... Thousands more similar articles. This is not a new tradition. Decades of this same behavior everywhere that Iran operates terror orgs.