| ▲ | refactor_master 10 hours ago |
| Most people in dense urban areas would actually pay less. By going vertical you’re freezing a whole m2 that was otherwise necessarily occupied by the fridge. In most places, 300 kWh is much cheaper than an extra irrevocable m2 for your fridge. Plus, a horizontal fridge is just… convenient. You can’t even put things on top of a vertical fridge. |
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| ▲ | seemaze 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I put things on top of my vertical fridge all the time. Also, how do you access a chest fridge with items sitting on top of lid? |
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| ▲ | hn_throwaway_99 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I literally don't understand this comment at all. What point are you trying to make? |
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| ▲ | frogulis 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | They seem to have mixed up horizontal and vertical, and if they did, then my reading is that they're saying the cost of the extra floor space (and the loss of the "shelf" space on top of the fridge) when using a chest fridge makes the economics unfavourable for people in dense urban areas, even with the energy savings. At least, I'm hoping that's what they meant. If they really meant horizontal and vertical in the way they used it then I've got no idea either. | | |
| ▲ | OJFord 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I didn't get it until reading your comment, but I think perhaps they meant 'vertical' as in 'it opens vertically' (chest freezer)—i.e. they didn't mix them up exactly, just used them differently than we expected. | |
| ▲ | hn_throwaway_99 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah, I understand your first sentence, but the last part of their comment was "Plus, a horizontal fridge is just… convenient. You can’t even put things on top of a vertical fridge." Don't they mean a horizontal fridge is a chest fridge? Which would make it sound like they want their whole comment to be in support of a chest fridge? Which is why none of it makes any sense to me. | | |
| ▲ | frogulis 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's what makes me think they've simply mixed up horizontal and vertical, because you can't (conveniently) store things on top of a chest fridge, but you can store things on top of a vertical fridge. Basically I think they've got a coherent point if you swap vertical and horizontal throughout their whole comment. | | |
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| ▲ | TurdF3rguson 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| But if I put things on top of it, now I can't get at the food. I mean, I have one of these as a meat freezer, and sometimes I put things on top of it, and then my wife gets mad at me and moves that thing somewhere because otherwise nobody can open it. Things on top of my vertical fridge on the other hand (my cat for example), can stay there indefinitely. |
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| ▲ | ezst 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Wouldn't a solution be to have the opening on the side and pull it toward you, like a "box on wheels"? As long as the sides of the "box" are thermally insulated, it seems like a sound solution for the stated problem (but certainly not one that's mechanically the cheapest/simplest). |
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| ▲ | Hamuko 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have cabinets over my vertical fridge that has things put in it. There's only like a 15 cm gap between for airflow. How do you slap a cabinet on top of a horizontal fridge? |
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| ▲ | KPGv2 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Did you by any chance switch "vertical" and "horizontal" at every point in your comment? |
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| ▲ | fwipsy 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | The words are intrinsically ambiguous. A standard fridge opens horizontally but stands vertically. Is it vertical or horizontal? | | |
| ▲ | decimalenough 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Horizontal vs vertical is determined by the orientation of the object's longest dimension. Portrait pictures on a wall and fridges with doors that open out are vertical, landscape pictures on a wall and chest freezers are horizontal. |
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