I don't like the "those in power" framing because it implies that they all participated and that such a homogenous group even exists.

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foltik 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In the USA it literally is two homogenous groups though? One of which is majorly complicit in covering up the files, against their constituents’ wishes.

	▲	scotty79 13 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I wouldn't even call them two groups. It's just one group ostensibly and publicly split in half, but it's still one group that intermingles behind the courtains.
	▲	DaSHacka 13 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I would say both parties are complicit at this point. Keep in mind Epstein died in 2017. We had two GOP terms and one Democrat term from then to now. With what we know from the files that have been released thus far (and how obviously the worst if it has either been shredded or will never see the light of day), the fact they refused to release/prosecute those implicated tells you all you need to know.

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smallmancontrov 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, and many people have an extreme incentive to retreat to that framing because

* In 2024, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles.

* In 2020, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles.

* In 2016, they had a choice between pedophiles and not pedophiles and chose the pedophiles.

There was plenty of evidence of this association in 2016 (bragging about creeping into Ms Teen USA dressing rooms, bragging about being Epstein's best friend in the same sentence as acknowledging he's a pedo, victim testimony under oath that he diddled kids, etc etc), so "I didn't know" isn't an excuse if they cared one iota about the children at any step of the way.

It should be good news that the powerful pedophiles are largely (but not exclusively) concentrated in one party, but those who put them in power will do anything to avoid admitting culpability.

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anonym29 14 hours ago | parent [-]

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smallmancontrov 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Couple small corrections:

Hillary has not been implicated by the Epstein files. Not today and not by evidence available in 2016.

Biden has not been implicated by the Epstein files. Not today and not by evidence available in 2020.

Bonus: not only was Trump implicated in the Epstein files both today and by evidence available in 2016, he was also in charge of every federal prison and every US spook agency in 2019 when Epstein died under mysterious circumstances.

	▲	gruez 14 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>Bonus: not only was Trump implicated in the Epstein files both today and by evidence available in 2016, he was also in charge of every federal prison and every US spook agency in 2019 when Epstein died under mysterious circumstances. Who was in charge when Epstein got the sweetheart deal on his first conviction?
	▲	anonym29 14 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I never accused Hillary or Biden of being implicated in the Epstein files. Those aren't corrections, those are non-sequitirs. Bonus: at no point did I refute Trump being a pedophile or being in the Epstein files.