| ▲ | andy_ppp 16 hours ago |
| Usually I like Apple’s OS updates but Tahoe is absolutely awful from the glass to the noddy sizing of everything. MacOS does not have to harmonise with VisionOS at all and it’s been a disaster for macOS to try. |
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| ▲ | mrweasel 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Maybe it looks better on a nicer monitor or something. To me there's nothing terribly broken about the Tahoe UI, but it's clearly rushed because there are a ton of weird little things that just look off. The dock is suppose to look like the icons float in a class panel, but the reflections in the glass look pixilated and the effect isn't there. The dock icons are centred in the dock, but the activity indicator on the "glass" pane make it look like they're not. In the control panel, and other windows with a left panel, it's clear that the window curve and the panel curve aren't the same and the transparency of the panel makes it even more clear. I don't understand why some panels can be transparent, but other parts of the window isn't. There's no reason for the transparency. The Tahoe looks like Gnome theme from 2005, it's interesting, sort of pretty, but the details makes it clear that the authors doesn't quite have the skills to perfect it. Apple have been slacking in the UI quality control department in the past few years. I have similar issues on my iPhone SE, Apple (and app authors) clearly doesn't test on this phone, because UI elements frequently overlap. Also I'm still annoyed about the control panel being ported over from iOS. You can't find anything and the window can't even be made wider. |
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| ▲ | drooopy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Tahoe's UI looks like a generic, "futuristic-like", user-created theme for KDE circa 2009. |
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| ▲ | microtonal 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The only missing thing are wobbly windows and a cube desktop switcher. (Yes, I know, don’t give them ideas.) | | |
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| ▲ | isoprophlex an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I kinda want a new mac because the hardware looks so ... performant. But I can't bear this tahoe glass bullshit, every screenshot I see of it looks terrible. I just don't get what Apple's play is here. |
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| ▲ | reddalo 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree. Tahoe is disgustingly unusable; I'm happy that Alan Dye left Apple. I hope Apple will backtrack on Liquid Glass after Tahoe. Otherwise, I'll just switch to Linux. |
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| ▲ | layer8 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Steve Lemay, who now replaced Alan Dye as the design lead, allegedly was a driving force behind Liquid Glass and deeply involved in its development, so I wouldn’t expect any reversal. (https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/15/ios-27-macos-27-no-majo...) | |
| ▲ | radicaldreamer 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They will likely tweak it but very unlikely that they’ll remove it altogether, especially with the upcoming touch screen MacBook Pro. Companies like Apple typically don’t make reversals quickly (the butterfly keyboard took years to remedy). | | |
| ▲ | mhurron 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They'll do what they always do, it'll be the greatest thing ever just getting minor tweaks for 3-4 releases and then will be superseded by the greatest thing ever. | |
| ▲ | tomalbrc 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Your "upcoming" touch MacBook Pro has been a pipe dream of apple consumers for 2 decades now | | |
| ▲ | isametry 27 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I’d even say pipe dream of just Apple commentators and pundits. I’ve yet to hear from a normal, real-life Mac user who legitimately wishes for a touchscreen MacBook. | | |
| ▲ | fragmede 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Kids raised on iPads totally try and touch three laptop screen, ah it's not all Internet pundits who want one. |
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| ▲ | nomel 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > disgustingly unusable Any specifics in mind? I, personally, haven't noticed much, beyond the initial difficulty in resizing windows. | |
| ▲ | troupo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why would they backtrack? Alan Dye wasn't the only person at Apple pushing this with God-like powers overriding everyone's decisions. [1] New head of design, surprise surprise: Apple's new software design chief, Steve Lemay, was "a driving force" behind Liquid Glass and was "deeply involved in its development." https://www.macrumors.com/2026/03/15/ios-27-macos-27-no-majo... [1] I have small rant about this pervasive view here: https://dmitriid.com/the-curious-case-of-alan-dye | |
| ▲ | Forgeties79 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just swap to Linux if you don’t have a true reason to stay on Mac. I flipped last April and man, it is wonderful. Bazzite boot, no windows partition or anything. It just works. Plus I have a 2016 MBpro I keep around in case I absolutely need a Mac (rare). Usually it’s an old drive formatted for Mac and I don’t feel like futzing around with software that allows it to read on my main computer. |
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| ▲ | Synaesthesia 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don't know, I always see this pattern with iOS or MacOS releases. Everyone piles on at the time. I've actually quite enjoyed some design changes in Tahoe, and looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned once you're used to them. |
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| ▲ | hbn 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Almost every update I'm skeptical at first and then after a while I see a screenshot of the old UI and think "how did I ever use that?" Tahoe I've been using since it came out and every time I see a screenshot of prior versions I think "wow it used to look so much better" | | |
| ▲ | microtonal 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, there was a post recently
about how window chrome changed over the years and the Tahoe era does not make me recognize Apple anymore: https://pxlnv.com/blog/window-chrome-of-our-discontent/ The usability of older versions was so much better. Tahoe is a huge regression, making everything look like one big drab. (Though Big Sur already entered the path of monochromatic toolbar icons, etc.) It’s a shame, because their hardware has improved significantly since Jony Ive left. |
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| ▲ | latexr an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Everyone piles on at the time. Not this much, they don’t. > looking at older versions of MacOS just looks old fashioned It’s an operating system, not a dress to parade around on a catwalk. I don’t want it to be fashionable and change with the seasons, I want it to be usable and intuitive. And yes, it should look good (which Tahoe doesn’t) but to the extent that it makes usability better, never in detriment of it. | |
| ▲ | spijdar 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm sure this is true, and that there will always be a (likely disproportionately) loud group of complainers, many of whom will forget about their complaints. I haven't really publicly complained about Tahoe before, and I don't intend on whining about it again. But... It's fine. I'm not going to rail about how it's unusable, or say that it makes me want to gouge out my eyes, or whatever. But it's enough to dissuade me from ever wanting to buy another Mac, if I have the option of using a desktop Linux system. That's a pretty big caveat. But those curved window borders and the rounded widgets in e.g. the settings menu are kind of awful. Not unusable. But every time I open a terminal and I deal with the choice of either having obscene padding around my content or seeing a few pixels of my prompt's corners shaved off, I get just a little more irritated, and a little less likely to pick up my Macbook the next time I'm deciding which device to use. | | |
| ▲ | brailsafe 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Good UI for tools, physical or digitial, should reduce the friction between picking it up and using it for something, that's the problem at the core of design. With the small caveat that sometimes technically good but perhaps unethical design solves stupid business problems well, like deliberately making chairs uncomfortable to keep traffic moving through a busy cafe, or making anti-homeless benches, design should not dissuade you from using something you purchased to solve other problems; it's unprincipled. |
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| ▲ | halapro 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've always been "pro-change" for UIs, as opposed to the bunch of people in the "bring the old UI back" camp, but Tahoe looked like fecal matter from the moment it was introduced. On iOS it's manageable with reduced transparency, but on macOS it's just so awful I won't upgrade. | | |
| ▲ | josteink 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was forced to upgrade at work. So I’ve enabled reduced transparency and all the other accessibility settings I can find to remove the terribleness. The UI is now mono-coloured gray and looks like MacOS back in the days before OS X was a thing - but it’s still better than what Apple “envisioned” with Tahoe. |
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| ▲ | kryptiskt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's actually a problem with Tahoe, it is not something new and bold, it's old-fashioned. Transparency already has come and gone as a UI fad, and it doesn't really make any big difference if you throw computationally expensive effects at it. | |
| ▲ | harha 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I got a Mac mini and was very positively surprised that it still ran the older version. I can use the size setting I'm comfortable with in the display menu. When I use Tahoe, I need to make the setting smaller to have a reasonable amount of apps open, but then it's uncomfortable to read. |
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| ▲ | thewhitetulip 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| My Tahoe issue was that when I shared screen with zoom I used to have some weird bug where the screenshare had issues. It was fixed in the last 2 updates. Either a tahoe issue or a zoom issue but you'd think that they'd have a beta program to fix such issues in the testing phase. |