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huijzer a day ago

Hawaii again? I hope it’s not too bad for the non-zuckerbergs

phainopepla2 a day ago | parent [-]

Are there people out there with Zuckerberg derangement syndrome, who can't hear about something only distantly related without bringing him up?

Kauai, where Zuckerberg's estate is, has not been affected. So yes, it's been bad for non-Zuckerbergs

huijzer a day ago | parent | next [-]

Why are you defending the billionaire?

arwineap 18 hours ago | parent [-]

So we have many moral frameworks we can pull from

Deontology judges actions based on rules and principles

Consequentialism judges actions based on the consequences

What would you call it when the morality of the action depends on the income level of the victim?

huijzer an hour ago | parent [-]

I don’t care about his income level. I just look at the negative effects of Facebook on society, his lying in interviews, the poor care about privacy, and things like that.

GorbachevyChase a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, he did sue a bunch of poor people to remove any possibility that they might make ancestral claims on or around his super abundance of land. It is in really bad taste and a testament to his lack of character.

mothballed a day ago | parent | next [-]

There's a long history of rich assholes moving in and using their property rights in bizarre ways that gain them basically nothing while fucking everyone else.

Oprah bought a huge estate in Maui, then used it to block the back road from Kihei to upcountry, forcing a much longer drive around. It doesn't go through anything of interest to Oprah or gain her anything, just a big fuck you to everyone else because she can.

beacon294 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Sometimes I see a silver lining to this behavior but it comes down to personal taste. A number of people likely appreciate that nice buffer between them and Kihei.

markdown a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Do they not have eminent domain laws in Hawaii?

mothballed a day ago | parent [-]

Not sure, but during the wildfires people went through anyway.

eudamoniac 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Gross mischaracterization. He filed an action in court to buy the land, because each parcel had dozens of owners that nobody even knew who they were, including the owners, until the court discovery happened.

" The land is made up of a few properties. In each case, we worked with the majority owners of each property and reached a deal they thought was fair and wanted to make on their own.

As with most transactions, the majority owners have the right to sell their land if they want, but we need to make sure smaller partial owners get paid for their fair share too.

In Hawaii, this is where it gets more complicated. As part of Hawaiian history, in the mid-1800s, small parcels were granted to families, which after generations might now be split among hundreds of descendants. There aren’t always clear records, and in many cases descendants who own 1/4% or 1% of a property don’t even know they are entitled to anything.

To find all these partial owners so we can pay them their fair share, we filed what is called a “quiet title” action. For most of these folks, they will now receive money for something they never even knew they had. No one will be forced off the land."