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10xDev 2 days ago

Can we just leave countries alone, like we do with North Korea?

AndrewKemendo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The reason people leave North Korea alone is because they have nuclear weapon(s)

energy123 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The reason people left North Korea alone while they were building nuclear weapons is because they weren't arming 5 terrorist proxies and they didn't have a doomsday countdown clock in their capital city.

10xDev 2 days ago | parent [-]

True, Kim Jong Un is actually pretty chill, just likes testing some nukes towards Japan as a hobby. Are people genuinely retarded? Or is it the severe Israel bias?

surgical_fire 2 days ago | parent [-]

Both

10xDev 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So we can only reach stalemate once a country has nukes and otherwise have to start blowing up their schools?

AndrewKemendo 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

According to postwar foreign policy clearly that’s true:

Look at Libya and Ukraine for your most direct examples - give away your nukes, get invaded. South Africa is an odd example that proves the rule: they simply bend the knee to the west.

Nuclear deterrents and mutual assured destruction has been the key driver in preventing large scale conflict in the “postwar period.”

Everyone knows Israel has nukes it’s just a matter of when they can get enough public support to use them

cameronh90 2 days ago | parent [-]

Mutually assured destruction does seem to deter conflict, but even assuming it works, it always seemed like a poor tradeoff to me.

Significantly reduce the frequency of small to medium-scale conflicts, in exchange for an inevitable, possibly apocalyptic nuclear conflict at some point. Maybe not this year, maybe not for centuries, but one day, someone will press the button.

lm28469 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Why do you think Iran wanted to have nukes?

It's the only way to not get raped by the US whenever their supreme leader decides it's war time

extraduder_ire 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Prior to that, they had thousands of artillery pieces pointed at Seoul the presumed backing of China if the Korean war resumed.

bigfatkitten 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And because China won’t allow it.

PepperdineG 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

They also have the GDP equivalent of JetBlue Airways

thrance a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Not until they get nukes. Which is inevitable now, as we've shown Iran that until then, they are liable to being carpet bombed once a year by the imperialist powers that be. And then we'll have one more rogue nation in the world, hurrah!