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netsharc 6 hours ago

Unfortunately it's we who will pay the price, with "we" being the entire world, considering the destruction of a lot of oil production infrastructure will cause a price hike for everything.

cardanome 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Well China is still getting Iranian oil no problem.

We in the West, well we are aiding the US in this war by allowing it to operate from military bases in our countries. We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now.

At least Spain showed some guts.

Of course it will also potentially cause suffering in the global south but that is on those that started the war.

kortilla 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How is China getting that oil without problem? Something like 90% of it when through Kharg island which is now rubble.

cardanome 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The attacks against Kharg Island were relatively limited as even the US wanted to avoid that level of escalation. The war has been painful but Iran could rebuild, if you destroyed Kharg island it would take decades to rebuild the Iranian economy, that would be a complete scorched earth point of no return.

Maybe there have been further attacks today that I missed but if true that would be an huge escalation.

My last information was that China has no problem getting oil but that was like two days ago.

DoctorOetker 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> We deserve it for looking the other way while Israel has been mass murdering Palestinians for more than two years now.

The sad part is how the genocide in Gaza could have been prevented:

Imagine an alternate history, in which successive precedencies didn't turn a blind eye to Iran, imagine a decade ago (regardless of democrat or republican administration) that they decided to do what they are doing today in Iran. Iran wouldn't have had the funds and resources to sponsor Hamas and Hezbollah. The populations in Gaza and Lebanon wouldn't have been sandwiched between the projected powers of Israel and Iran. Their power structures could have been legitimate democracies etc. In that world there wouldn't have been a reason for Israel to attack and invade, and even if they did in this alternate history, the rest of the world would have strongly condemned it to the point of military intervention on behalf of Gaza / Lebanon.

Always take not how a faction has risen to power initially. In the case of Iran's regime it was hostage taking. A faction will very often resort to the same tactics and methods it used during its initial ascent to power, a form of survivorship bias.

If the West hadn't let the situation of Iran rot indefinitely for decades (they even systematically rewarded the regime's behavior by systematically giving in to the hostage politics it conducted, in my opinion they should have just drawn a line and said: return these hostages unconditionally or we treat this as hiding behind a human shield).

cardanome 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The genocide against the Palestinians has not started after October 7th though but long before the Islamic Republic of Iran even existed. In the Nakba of 1948 as much al 750k Palestinians lost their homes.

Hezbollah came to be as a resistance group against the invasion of Lebanon by Israel.

The reason both Hamas and Hezbollah exists is because Israel.

There can not be peace in the region as long as Israel exists. They are a settler colonial state build and sustaining itself by the dead bodies and suffering of the Palestinians.

> the rest of the world would have strongly condemned it to the point of military intervention on behalf of Gaza / Lebanon.

That is completely delusional.

I Iran had fallen ten years ago, there would be no Palestinians anymore. No one would have stopped Israel from killing them. Israel would have annexed South Lebanon, part of Syria, Egypt and so on and created Greater Israel.

shepherdjerred 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

TBH I am a little more concerned about people dying from the conflict than paying a bit more for gas

undersuit 4 hours ago | parent [-]

What about the people who will die because they cannot afford the higher prices that will come from a disruption in gas supply?

shepherdjerred 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

You could've written that comment in a more constructive way.

As you probably already know, my point was that it's a bit callous to focus on "this war is expensive and inconvenient" while innocent people are, you know, dying.