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mytailorisrich 5 hours ago

Iran has always said a lot of things (mostly BS). This is worthless without evidence and I don't think anyone had evidence that their missiles were restricted to 2,000km. Certainly, I don't think anyone took their word for it. In fact this attack proves that there was no such limitation (although it is unclear to me if the missiles fired could actually jave reached Diego Garcia).

Now this may be a demonstration and veiled threat, on the other hand if Iran was to fire a missile at continental Europe I would hope that the consequence for them would be to be flattened, so...

applfanboysbgon 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You didn't have to take their word for it. It was self-evident from the fact they never did anything like this before, and now they are.

Notably, the previous guy issued a religious decree against the development of nuclear weapons. Despite American's favorite propaganda tool for manufacturing consent, "but the WMDs", we have no reason to believe that was ever actually being violated. But you'd better believe it will be now if they think they can pull it off.

mytailorisrich 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There is a difference between not doing something and being unable to do something. Clearly there were able but only showed it now and their previous claim was BS (again, assuming those missiles did fly "far").

No-one believes that Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons, either... or that they wouldn't if they had developed the capability.

gambutin 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ayatollah Khomeini admitted that he had lied about plans to make Iran democratic.

This practice is known as taqqiya. It’s ok to lie if you’re deceiving the enemy.

subscribed 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Did he also released a religious decree stating as much?

Because otherwise you're comparing apples to mushrooms. Not even themselves kingdom.

rayiner 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do the missiles Iran has been raining down on other countries for decades not count as WMDs?

oa335 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No.

“ A weapon of mass destruction is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological, or other device that is intended to harm a large number of people”

https://www.dhs.gov/topics/weapons-mass-destruction.

jl6 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No. There’s a definition from the UN here if you’re interested:

https://unterm.un.org/unterm2/en/view/UNHQ/9626F6CEB2A92C9B8...

subscribed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, that would be quite a spin. We can probably see it in the Faux News soon.

sebastiennight 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

AFAICT, not by any commonly accepted definition of WMD:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction#Def...

chasd00 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Idk, I don’t think Europe has the capacity to do anything except launch their nukes. If missiles started falling on London they’d run to the UN and start writing letters. It would take months for NATO to start having planning meetings to figure out how to plan the response. I feel like the only military capability is maybe the SAS and nukes. There’s nothing in between.

mda 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like they flattened Afghanistan? It is funny people thinks land war in an huge mountainous country with 90 million people is easy.

PepperdineG 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Never get involved in a land war in Asia but only slightly less well-known is never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

me_smith 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Inconceivable!

mytailorisrich 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wrote "flatten", not "invade".

mda 5 hours ago | parent [-]

flatten with what?

drnick1 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Like what is happening now, completely decimating their army, navy, and air force. If that isn't enough, destroy their only source of revenue (oil fields), or go even further and destroy their electrical grid and send the country back to the stone age.

Finally, if the regime does not surrender after all this, a nuke could still be used.

lostlogin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> destroy their only source of revenue (oil fields)

That’s the worlds source or revenue.

lm28469 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lmao, from "we're here to bring democracy" to "let's destroy their civilian infrastructure" to "let's nuke them" real quick

If that's the US way, why are Russians the bad guy again?

subscribed 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You don't use nuke on the regime, you use it on the civilians, FFS.

Genocidal freaks. As if Hiroshima didn't teach you anything.

breppp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> On the other hand if Iran was to fire a missile at continental Europe I would hope that the consequence for them would be to be flattened

Iran have been attacking uninvolved NATO member Turkey for a while now and nothing happens. The USA is already fully engaged into this war while Europe can hardly deal together with Russia, it is doubtful they'd do anything even if it rained down on their territory

GordonS 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It should be noted that Iran has publicly stated that the attacks on Turkey were false-flag attacks launched by Israel.

mda 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Attacking as in a couple of rockets heading US bases which were intercepted. Of course nothing would happen, why would Turkey (or other European countries) join this pointless war?

breppp 4 hours ago | parent [-]

This is an attack on Turkish territory regardless if there's a US base, and Iranian missiles usually miss the bases anyway.

Turkey is led by a strongman leader and these are very sensitive to acts of public humiliation. So that's unwise when thinking about any negligible strategic advantage they may gain from these attacks

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throwaway27448 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What incentive would Iran have to lie? Their entire security model revolves around believable deterrence—apparently far more believable than either Israel or the US understood.