| ▲ | nchagnet 2 days ago |
| I live in the Netherlands where the weather is arguably tougher than in Paris (rain, cold and wind for large portion of the year) yet everyone bikes year in year out. And not just young active people, it's a habit found across all age groups, parents bike their children to school (or with them if old enough, etc.) All that to say I wouldn't worry too much about the feasibility issue, it's really more of a mindset to adopt, and it's happening more and more in France. |
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| ▲ | jacquesm 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Paris has one thing that Amsterdam does not that makes cycling more challenging: elevation. (Ok, Amsterdam has bridges but those are for the most part really short and momentum is enough to carry you across). |
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| ▲ | consp 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I seriously consider 6-7bft headwind far worse than any hill. Won't get that in large cities but a bit out that's normal cycling weather. | | | |
| ▲ | microtonal 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I cycled to work every day in Southern Germany, which had even more elevation, it was not a huge problem, you get fit enough in now time. Older people just use e-bikes. | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Older people just use e-bikes. Or those with bad legs. Raises hand. |
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| ▲ | nchagnet 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh I agree. When I lived in Lyon, who is also quite bike-friendly, it was a lot more challenging than Amsterdam. But with electric bikes becoming more affordable, hopefully the gap can eventually close. | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I've become utterly addicted to my e-bike. You can have my car, but my e-bike stays. |
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| ▲ | prpl 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In amsterdam, few people wear modern/synthetic rain coats as well. Just riding around in the rain with what I assume must be waxed duck out something |
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| ▲ | stef25 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > the Netherlands It's completely flat and the obvious reason why everyone cycles. Nothing to do with mindset, like you're somehow superior to the rest of EU. |
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| ▲ | david-gpu 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Bicycles have had gears for almost a century, and they allow to tackle hilly areas easily. Also, the Netherlands is notoriously windy, and a headwind is just as difficult as a hill. No, what makes the Netherlands different is their street design prioritizing safety rather than speed at all costs. When the streets feel safe from speeding drivers, more people choose to ride a bike. | | |
| ▲ | stef25 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > Bicycles have had gears for almost a century, and they allow to tackle hilly areas easily. Assuming everyone but you is retarded. | | |
| ▲ | david-gpu a day ago | parent [-] | | Not at all. I simply suspect that you are uninformed about why cycling is popular in the Netherlands. In the 60s the Netherlands was just as flat as it is today, but it wasn't a cycling paradise. It all changed with the campaign "Stop de Kindermoord" (literally translated as "Stop the Child Murder"), which began in 1972. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_in_the_Netherlands#His... |
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| ▲ | nchagnet 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Considering I'm not Dutch, you may feel reassured there is no superiority feeling at play here. I agree with another commenter that while flat, the Netherlands have their own hurdles (biking with a strong headwind on the banks of the IJ is not easy, even if flat), and I definitely agree that their city design is what makes this unique. I lived in various parts of France growing up, and I can assure you there are flat cities there, yet biking in them felt very risky at best. |
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