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| ▲ | delta_p_delta_x 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| Ford of Europe has succeeded because its direction and leadership are completely different to its American outfit, and has released models targeting European sensibilities. You will probably not find Mondeos or Focuses in the North American market. Nor will you (easily) find an F-150 in Europe. A Ranger, perhaps, but not the F-150. |
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| ▲ | jolux 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You could definitely buy the Focus in the US. | | |
| ▲ | consp 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Same name, mostly same internal components, different chassis (mostly bigger) afaik. Same for Fiesta's except for some models (e.g. ST). I know for the Fiesta since the electronics are the same but the dash components are made for a bigger chassis (to make it fit you have to dremel quite a bit). | | |
| ▲ | jolux 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Huh, interesting. Looks like they were indeed quite different until the Mk3 in 2012 |
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| ▲ | rsynnott 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The Focus is about the only European-designed Ford which really made it to the US in significant numbers (albeit somewhat late) at all, AIUI. | | | |
| ▲ | seabrookmx 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Even the Fiesta was sold in the US and Canada off and on. |
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| ▲ | mapgrep 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You've shown your words to be meaningless. You said the U.S. car brands were "completely irrelevant" outside the U.S., here you admit that's wrong. You move the goalpost and change your assertion to something entirely different. But there is no reason to think this statement has any factual basis either. You're just talking out of your &ss. | | |
| ▲ | tw-20260303-001 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | They said “nearly”. Ford is the only American brand selling numbers in Europe, maybe nect to Tesla. | | |
| ▲ | cucumber3732842 a day ago | parent [-] | | GM sells a whole bunch of stuff they just don't put a bowtie on the grill in Europe or Asia because they have other brands they use there. |
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| ▲ | rsynnott 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Ford of Europe is arguably a European car brand which happens to be owned by a US company (in much the same way as Chrysler/Jeep etc are clearly American car brands, despite being owned by a European company). |
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| ▲ | spockz 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Here in the Netherlands ford sales seem to have completely consumed by Kia sales. Around me houses that typically had Fords now have Kia’s, Toyota, Tesla or small Volvo like EX30/40. After the huge hits of the focus and to some extend Mondeo, the Kuga has sold subpar. There were only a few new ones around here. Now you see some new EV Ford Explorer SUV and just a tiny account of the big old Explorer. (Yes, the traditional Explorer suv counts as big here.) In the mean time there is an explosion of BYD, Volvo, Skoda Enyaq, etc happening. Mostly driven by which model has the most beneficial tax package for lease. |
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| ▲ | consp 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > the Kuga has sold subpar. I own a Plugin one, I completely understand why. It's "meh", plus all the recalls because Ford cheaped out on the battery production and Samsung (the battery cells) can't do inventory management. For the US audience: it's the Escape (they are identical in all but numbering). |
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| ▲ | 4ndrewl 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Right, but Ford Europe is, and always had been, a different beast to Ford America. |
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| ▲ | ErroneousBosh a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Fords in Europe are made a little to the north-east of London, or near Cologne. They have (almost) nothing to do with North American Ford vehicles. |
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