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est 3 hours ago

> citizens that accept surveilence and lack of privacy

citizens had no choice.

fmbb 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Neither do US and European citizens. We seem to be accepting the same amount of surveillance and lack of privacy still.

shaneos 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Citizens always have a choice. The cost can be terrible, but there’s always a choice

raw_anon_1111 2 hours ago | parent [-]

What is that “choice”? Surely you aren’t like those yokels in the south that think a “militia” running in the woods can take on the the US military or even a decent SWAT force

Johanx64 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're presuming that if they had a choice, they wouldn't accept it.

The reality is that chinese goverment is - overall - delivering results. People will accept things that bring good outcomes.

There's also upsides from the surveilence and the way things are done in China which makes it way more resilient from outside influence and disruptive bad actors.

Now I don't want the same things in my country, but it suits China to some extent.