Just wait until you find out the benefits of taking them away from kids altogether! Phones are a mental health hazard for children, there is no benefit for them having a phone. The only downside is they feel left out when their friends only want to sit around and scroll TikTok, and can't manage to have any in person interactions without their face in a screen.

None of my children have phones, and when they do get one, it will be when they are driving and will be a dumb phone for sending text messages and making calls.