California pays other states to take its excess solar energy. Power for a project like this isn't the issue, actually building the system is the issue.

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rtkwe 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They wouldn't if you switched just Urban water use from natural sources to desalination. To do that you need to replace the ~5 million acre feet of water, ~6,167,400,000 m3, that goes into the Urban bucket which is all of the water used to keep people alive, clean, and all industrial uses of water. [0] That comes to ~ 12BkWh of energy needed to scale up batched reverse osmosis to take over just the life and job required water needs which is about 25% of the total solar power generated in all of 2025 via grid-scale solar farms. CA does export some during the day due to excess solar but is still a net importer of power.

[0] p2 of https://cwc.ca.gov/-/media/CWC-Website/Files/Documents/2019/...

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bombcar 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Those are the numbers I was looking for - that means that (ignoring build-out costs) total desalination for CA would be on the order of 10% of the 3 gorges dam yearly output (max).

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rtkwe 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Using a system that's currently in a lab scale only and ignoring other energy costs like moving the water to the plant, mixing the briny output back down to acceptable levels, and then pressurizing the system to replace the gravity fed design it currently uses.

For a rough estimate for replacing agricultural uses too ~6x that urban figure at least then weep at the amount of pumps you'd need to bring that water up and inland to the farm lands from the coast. At least for replacing urban use most of the population lives on/near the coast where the water would be produced.

	▲	bombcar an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Farm use is by far the biggest, but "taking" water from the inland empire and dragging it to LA is also a cost. But all of this is firmly in the "we could do it if we really wanted/needed to" not "needs more energy than the sun will produce in its lifetime".

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JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> California pays other states to take its excess solar energy

Intermittently. Essential services like water (with expensive fixed costs) aren’t a good fit for absorbing variable supply.

> Power for a project like this isn't the issue

California has the country’s most expensive power [1] in part due to policymakers constantly assuming it’s free.

[1] https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/