| ▲ | bawolff 5 hours ago |
| I'm a little confussd... was there a point they were allowed? I went to school in the late 2000s, and even at that point if a teacher saw you with a cell phone it was immediately confiscated. |
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| ▲ | jedberg 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| In the last 10 years, driven a lot by school shootings, the tide shifted and parents started fighting schools about letting their kids keep their phone "so they can be contacted in emergencies". The schools gave up fighting with the parents. Laws like this give the school cover to confiscate the phones and say "talk to your congressperson if this bothers you, my hands are tied". |
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| ▲ | bawolff 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | FWIW i'm outside the US so maybe there are cultural differences. | |
| ▲ | kelvinjps10 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | There is a difference between being allowed to have the phone (in your pocket) and taking it out in the classroom. | | |
| ▲ | jedberg 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, and parents were getting mad at the school when their kids couldn't reply to their midday texts. |
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| ▲ | Rebelgecko 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Around 2015 or so they became a lot more accepted. From talking to teachers, a surprisingly large amount of the distraction is parents texting kids while they're at school. |
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| ▲ | simplyluke 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > a surprisingly large amount of the distraction is parents texting kids while they're at school We're entering pretty substantial numbers of parents who grew up or at least spent their entire adult lives with cell phones and the expectation of constant communication. In fact, from my anecdotal experience, the mid-older millennial cohort is the worst at expecting immediate replies at all hours to any form of communication be it social or work. One of the things I realize I'm grateful for in hindsight is parents who didn't grow up with that, and had no problem calling the front desk of the school if there was a legitimate emergency that needed to involve pulling me out of school. And it turns out for anything short of that, the news could wait until 4PM. | |
| ▲ | temp84858696945 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wonder how much of that is actually parents texting kids, and how much of that is that kids are using that as an excuse to why they checked their phone mid class. That seems like one of the easiest excuses for kids to make that is hard to argue against. | | |
| ▲ | genthree 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No, no, it's the parent. Parents calling their kids in class isn't as rare as you might think... | | |
| ▲ | lastofthemojito 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, there was a recent NYT article about the ongoing phone ban/pouch discussion and one parent reported having a shared Google Doc for emergency communication with their kid to work around the lack of a cell phone. The nature of such emergencies was not discussed, but I cynically suspect it was along the lines of "do you want mac n cheese or nuggets for dinner?" https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/25/style/yondr-pouch-school-... | | |
| ▲ | genthree 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Consider how many people are clingy and/or just have questionable judgement about boundaries with their friends, family, and acquaintances in general, usually with a healthy dose of neuroticism thrown in for good measure. Consider that lots of these people have kids, and when they do, they tend to have a very friend-like relationship with them. Like, they aren't just magically better at this stuff when it's their kid. These situations are a source of a great deal of this behavior, and the "I can't contact my kid-friend!" anxiety. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's some of both. Parents do text their kids during the day, but kids also pull out all the excuses when caught. Even when I was in high school "I was responding to my mom" was the go-to excuse when caught using a cell phone. I had one teacher who would actually read what was on the screen (this was before locking your phone was common and probably lawsuit material today, but things were different) and call kids out when they were lying. The threat of having a teacher read your text messages was enough to put an end to cell phone usage in class. |
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| ▲ | simplyluke 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| When I was in high school in the early 2010s it was down to every teacher to enforce their own policy on phones. In practice, this meant that it was wildly variable, kids were getting texts from kids in more permissive environments (the gym teachers had no issue with you playing on your phone as you did a mile walk) which was driving FOMO and leading to students leaving the classroom to check their phones, lots of trying to sneak a look when teachers were distracted, etc. The rollout of LTE data and more-modern smartphones + social media during that area was a nuclear bomb on teenagers's ability to focus in hindsight. I can distinctly remember the divide between dumb phones/ipods/early smart phones with slow data, and modern social media + fast cellular data to get around school network bans. Things went from the occasional student thinking they were clever with a wired headphone down their sleeve to near constant distraction very rapidly. The "innovation" has been basic leadership -- setting policies at the school/district and in this case state level. Consistent expectations make it easier for students to follow the policy. Some schools have gone as far as physically locking phones away for the day, though reading the article it sounds like that's not what Oregon is doing. |
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| ▲ | lastofthemojito 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| From my teacher spouse's perspective, a lot of it seems to be the monetary value of smartphones. Some kids are coming to school with the latest and greatest $1000+ smartphone, so if the teacher drops it, scuffs it, misplaces it, etc, the parents are coming after the teacher about an item with real value. Teachers don't want any part of that battle so confiscation is now off the table. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But this new law also involves confiscation. I don't think that explains anything. | | |
| ▲ | LeifCarrotson 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Previously, the confiscation was the teacher's policy. "I dunno Mom, at the start of 4th hour I put my iPhone in the basket Mrs. Wormwood makes everyone drop their phones in, and when I got it back after class the screen had this big crack in it. It wasn't because I dropped it in 3rd hour in Mr. Lockjaw's PE class while walking and checking Instagram, nuh uh. Can you get me the iPhone 17 Pro Max instead of the iPhone 17e this time?" And then at conferences (or worse, at the PTA meeting or school board meeting) Mrs. Wormwood is going to hear from Mom how she broke Johnny's phone and cost them $1100. Now it's state law. It's not Mrs. Wormwood's decision to confiscate phones from students, preventing little Johnny from texting Mama when there's a lockdown, it's the law and her hands are tied. | | |
| ▲ | Aurornis 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Previously where, though? In this specific Oregon school district? It's not up to the teachers' discretion in the schools near me. |
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| ▲ | lastofthemojito 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm not sure what law you're referring to. The linked article discusses the implementation of an executive order in Oregon that mostly bans use of cell phones during school time. Some schools may do things differently, but it seems like the one highlighted in the article allows the kids to keep phone in their backpacks: "Rather than use pouches or lockers, students are allowed to keep their phones safely stored in their backpacks" I didn't see anything in the article or the text of the EO about confiscation. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1R5kfyMYsA6cg3VQKutUxLTIGVpI... |
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| ▲ | mmmlinux 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | thats funny, if i park illegally and my car gets damaged while towed, no ones paying for those damages. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm also confused by stories that imply that kids were allowed to use their phones during class. The local schools I'm familiar with allowed phones in backpacks, but if you got caught using it during class there were consequences. Enforcement was never perfect. Some teachers didn't care, some students were sneaky enough to not get caught. Yet the consequences seemed to keep the kids afraid of using phones for the most part (from what I've been told, obviously I wasn't sitting with them in class). Some of these articles are written like entire classrooms were just scrolling their phones during class? I don't get it. Was there just a total lack of enforcement? |
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| ▲ | mmmlinux 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Right? when I graduated HS in 2008 phones had always been banned. If you got caught with one out, you could have them just not out and in theory off, you would get detention and your parent would have to come get it. When did it suddenly become OK to have phones out. |
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| ▲ | rootusrootus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Late 2000s was just after smartphones became a thing, and before they became a crack epidemic. In my personal experience, it has really been bad for about the last 10 years, getting better over the last few years however. Took a few years for everyone to really understand how bad the problem had become and how quickly. |
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| ▲ | porridgeraisin 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here in india it became normalised to bring it to school around 2016. But even today it's completely not OK to use it in class. It'll be confiscated immediately. |
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| ▲ | engeljohnb 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I was in high school in the early 2010s. In 2010 I went to a school that gave all students ipod touchs, which seemed futuristic at the time. By 2012 phones weren't banned from school, but a teacher would still take it if you were blatantly using it during class. |