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| ▲ | bawolff 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Do graphing calculators actually help people learn? We used them in high school, but when i needed to take calculus in university we didn't use them. I'm doubtful they are good for learning especially when trying to teach the foundations. | | |
| ▲ | jeffgreco 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Complete waste for anything math related for me. Did act as a proper gateway into coding though! | | |
| ▲ | pavel_lishin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I distinctly remember writing a minesweeper game, using the built-in programming language. Not the fast compiled one you needed a cable to transfer! Just button presses. | |
| ▲ | soperj 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Same for me. Felt like a superpower. |
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| ▲ | rtkwe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It really depends on the level of the class and the goals. Usually by the time you're getting to calculus you're moving away from simply calculating a numerical answer anyways and the problems where you do need to find one just to test that final step can be finessed so they're simple to calculate by hand and eliminate the problem of full computer algebra system calculators that can handle the symbolic manipulation too. | |
| ▲ | veilrap 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Personally, playing with the graphing and algebra functions on the calculator were hugely informative. Rapidly trying out different things, seeing how they looked how tweaking things would cause adjustment, all added educational value. I feel like graphing calculators enable exploration in a way that doing it manually with pen and paper cannot. Obviously, pen and paper is super valuable as well, but I feel that they are complimentary. | |
| ▲ | isk517 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Back in the day the feature I liked most about my TI-82 was the amount of information that could fit on the display, the formatting options available, the ease of entering and editing what you entered, and the amount of past entered formulas that would be saved and how easy they were to retrieve. It made doing large blocks of basic BEDMAS math very quick and less suspectable to errors caused by accidentally hitting the wrong key entering in large formulas, and very easy to go back and find out where I messed up and quickly retabulate everything. All of that mostly comes up in physics and chemistry were its about knowing what long formulas you need to plug the numbers you have available to you to find out what you need to know. Oddly enough their seems to be very little benefit to using a graphing calculator in a actual math class. | | |
| ▲ | pavel_lishin 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > BEDMAS I think I figured out what the B stands for, but where I'm from, we call it PEDMAS - the P standing for Parentheses. |
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| ▲ | jagged-chisel 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In my case it did. I took "advanced math" (trig, mostly) in high school from an abysmal teacher. Ignoring her and developing an intuition through graphing was the best thing ever. I had the best final grade in the class. | |
| ▲ | subscribed 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They were brilliant in electric engineering classes. I found these calculations very tedious. For maths not so much, as it was less about providing a numerical answer, and more about understanding the question. | |
| ▲ | masfuerte 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't see the need for it. The only time I ever needed to graph a function was to answer a homework problem that specifically asked me to. Having your calculator do it misses the point. |
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| ▲ | drivebyhooting 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why do you need a music player in school? | | |
| ▲ | bityard 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "Need" might be strong, but I am okay with music players. My ADHD self is able to focus many times better if I have certain kinds of music playing to block out nearly talking and other distracting sounds. | |
| ▲ | alexfoo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I gave my 16yo ADHD kid an mp3 player with hours of “ADHD focus” music on it. It’s proven very useful a few times where a few ND-unaware teachers have confiscated phones that the ND kids use to help them focus. They don’t get it to use it whenever they want but there are some situations where they are allowed to use it and where having a phone is tricky given the lack of trust some teachers have. Old school technology fallbacks are sometimes useful. Who knew. | | |
| ▲ | arijun 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Having all been in high school, I think we can all agree that lack of trust is warranted. Not for every kid, but for enough of them that blanket rules make sense. We also don’t allow students to use the calculator app on their phone for tests, and instead make them buy the “old school technology fallback” version. An MP3 player seems like a good compromise, and far cheaper than the phone they’re replacing. |
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| ▲ | mrinterweb 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Listening to music can help people focus. | | |
| ▲ | bananamogul 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | In 2026 the number of people with mp3 players that are not also smart phones is vanishingly small. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If you are interested in standalone digital audio players (DAPs), I just recently bought this: https://www.fiio.com/echomini For ~$60 you get a device that can play every type of audio file and has better sound quality than your cellphone + streamer combo. I've been reading more about Chinese hardware and if you've been sleeping on it there are a lot of great Chinese consumer products that are both extremely high quality + very cheap. Turns out when you have tens of millions of engineers they pump out banger after banger. Also always hilarious, in an enduring way, finding the factory engineers engaging with consumers on random forums that take their feedback seriously. | | |
| ▲ | InitialLastName 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Note that in this case, you are getting what you pay for: I had a FIIO DAC that sounded amazing but was really bad about full-scale turn-on, sync and desync pops to the extent that it damaged my speakers. Yes, perfect power sequence hygiene would have prevented the problem, but one can't always be ready with the amplifier volume knob when their playback system crashes. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | ah good to know. Outside of having a very basic dac for my cans on my desktop, I wouldn't think of any serious equipment failures could happen. Probably wrong to assume that these things are engineered to be safe/redundant. This is going to be my first DAP in like 15 years, zune being the last one I had. Pretty excited to rock it out for a bit. There's a current fad out there to move to more single-service type of devices rather than using a phone for everything. Want to try it out myself to be more intentional with my digital actions and ween myself away from corporate social media. |
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| ▲ | jjgreen 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Woah, skeuomorphism writ large! |
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| ▲ | rtkwe 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If they're allowed and help where phones wouldn't or don't there are still lots of options for stand alone MP3 players with minimal or no connectivity. They still exist as a market because they're dirt cheap to make. |
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| ▲ | throwawayk7h 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | music players were often essential for my ability to stay focussed on my work and reading. | | |
| ▲ | rootusrootus 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | During class time? | | |
| ▲ | john_strinlai 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | not all classes are 100% lectures. many of my kids classes have 15-30 minutes of "work time". sometimes entire periods are "work periods" when they have a big project or whatever. |
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| ▲ | WithinReason 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | For the walk home | |
| ▲ | superkuh 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mostly just listened during homeroom and lunch period. But once I was sent to in-schoool-suspension in high school in the early 2000s for listening to my mp3 player (Diamond Rio PMP300) after I finished taking the yearly standardized tests the state used to judge schools. |
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| ▲ | johnnyanmac 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This was some 20 years ago, but - iPods? Taken away - didn't have fancy smart watches, so those were fine. But I'm sure a modern smart watch wouldn't fly - graphing calculators were fine. Just don't make it too obvious you were playing Pokemon Red on it. |
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