| ▲ | jasonkester 6 hours ago |
| Before having kids, I expected it to be this huge life changing thing. That it would effectively end the part of my life where I was free to do whatever I wanted, and start the part where I was just Daddy, doing nothing except serving my childrens' needs. But that didn't happen. We just carried on being Jason and his partner, but with a baby in tow. I had spent most of my 30s cramming in as much "living" as possible, to make sure I'd stocked away a lifetime supply of it. After all, I'd probably never get another chance to travel for long periods, keep up with climbing, and all that other stuff that Independent Jason could do. But it was all for naught. We just packed the kid along and went traveling anyway. He had eleven stamps in his passport by his first birthday. Life is just as much fun as ever. But now we have some kids to play with. |
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| ▲ | com2kid 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Before having kids, I expected it to be this huge life changing thing. That it would effectively end the part of my life where I was free to do whatever I wanted, and start the part where I was just Daddy, doing nothing except serving my childrens' needs. There are some huge changes. The largest is a lack of the mental downtime where deep thought and problem solving could occur. I can't get off work, hop on my car, and drive around for an hour mulling over technical work. I can't stay an hour past with coworkers and noodle solutions on a white board. I can't get up at 2 am to try something out that just popped into my head. I need to be in bed by 10pm every day. I have to get up at 7am every day. On weekdays 2 meals a day need to be planned, on weekends 3 meals a day. I can't try experimenting with some random new recipe that may fail, my kid needs to eat lunch on time not 2 hours late. Yes it is a lot of fun (theme parks! Trick or treating!), but I'm thankful I did a ton of amazing engineering work before I had a kid because there is no way I can dedicate the absurd amount of time to innovating/solving hard problems, that I used to. |
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| ▲ | EvanAnderson 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Before having kids, I expected it to be this huge life changing thing. That it would effectively end the part of my life where I was free to do whatever I wanted, and start the part where I was just Daddy, doing nothing except serving my childrens' needs. Had a very similar feeling. When my wife told me the "getting pregnant" worked I mourned a little bit. I recognize we were exceedingly lucky to have had such a wonderful kid, and it has worked out very well. For the first 6 mos. a lot did change, but after that things seemed to skew back to a new "normal". It will be 13 years in May since we had our daughter. I'm so glad we did it. I know that it could have gone a lot differently, though. I'd never suggest that it'll be great for everybody. |
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| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > He had eleven stamps in his passport by his first birthday. I was raised overseas (Dad[0] in the CIA). Both good and bad. First, if it's just "traveling," and not "living" overseas, I suspect that it's not so bad, but military brats have common quirks, for a reason. Our lives get torn up and replanted regularly. It's hard to make friends, and we often end up having a difficult time, retaining long-term relationships, later in life. But, man, the life story that it gives you. There's few cures for xenophobia, better than immersion. [0] https://cmarshall.com/miscellaneous/MikeMarshall.htm |
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| ▲ | madduci 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It happened to me and now, after more than 8 years, I find myself still in the situation where I am serving my children's needs and not having time to satisfy my personal ones. They go to bed when I am also tired. Trying to having an hobby past their bed time means sacrifying sleep time. Travelling is also a challenge, since they lack interesting in seeing something new, but just want to have fun playing, especially playgrounds. |
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| ▲ | roarcher 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > We just packed the kid along and went traveling anyway. He had eleven stamps in his passport by his first birthday. How do you keep a baby happy and quiet on long international flights? I currently have no kids but I may find myself in this situation in the next couple years. I'm dreading being the guy with a screaming infant on a 13-hour trans-Pacific flight that keeps everyone from sleeping. |
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| ▲ | hamdingers 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Babies want nothing more than to sit on your lap snoozing and feeding. It's more or less what you do at home anyway. The hardest part about flying with a baby is dealing with the added luggage (stroller, carseat, overpacked diaper bag, etc). It's only once they're old enough to have more sophisticated feelings (like boredom) but not old enough to communicate them (except by screaming) you get in trouble. | |
| ▲ | dzink 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | First two years they can fly for free, but they have to ride in an adult’s lap and that gets tiring. Don’t believe the bassinet offerings - as soon as a plane gets turbulence, you have to get the sleeping baby out of the wall bassinet and good luck appeasing them. Age 1-2 is hardest for travel, so you can skip it. The only thing that worked was getting their own seat with the cosco scenera next car seat (or their own if they like it, but that one is $50 and light to carry). They would sleep nicely for large chunks and you get to enjoy travel again. After age 3 it’s much easier (they can ipad if that’s the only ipad time they ever get). | | |
| ▲ | HoldOnAMinute 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't go straight to screens in this situation. You can introduce novelty by purchasing a number of cheap toys, even from the dollar store, which they have never seen before. Keep them hidden until the flight. |
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| ▲ | vermon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm 6 months in and it has definitely ended my life as it was and nothing is the same. I'm pretty lucky that my wife gives me almost 16 hours of free time daily, from which 8 I work and 8 is for sleep. If I want to work out or do something else I need to steal it from the sleep time.
It's pretty early though so I might be looking back in a few years and think that it was not that bad actually :) |
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| ▲ | gkdr 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | A lot of gyms will watch your kids while you work out. Great opportunity to give both of you a break. | | |
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| ▲ | jbrun 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Absolutely. Also, kids end up helping you focus on the travel, experiences and things that are truly worthwhile. You drop a lot of activities and TV and other activities that was frankly a waste of time anyways. |
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| ▲ | sershe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That doesn't appear to be a common story. I now have to schedule phone calls with my retired mother because between my sister and her partner who both work, and her, with 2 kids - one small but active that needs constant minding and one that needs chaperoning to activities - she often doesn't have one uninterrupted hour in the evening for an entire week. Nearly everyone I know with kids is more similar to this story than yours.. to each their own but it's certainly not for me:) |
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| ▲ | nDRDY 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You have just the one kid, right? We were the same ;-) |
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| ▲ | jasonkester 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Two now. That’s still manageable. | | |
| ▲ | EvanAnderson 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Good on you. We were 'one and done'. Two sounds more than 100% more difficult, if only just because the number of edges in the relationship graph going up. My parents managed four kids, albeit for most of that time there were only 3 living in the home at a time (13 years between the oldest and youngest). A friend of mine had eleven (!!!) siblings. That horrifies me. Cliques could form in that size population! Utter craziness. |
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| ▲ | tayo42 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Travel with a baby isn't that bad. I think people struggle with losing their identity when they no longer get long periods of focus time or can participate in their hobbies with the dedication they would like. |
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| ▲ | InexSquirrel 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It can be. And it also places strain on the people around you too if the kid isn't settled and easy to travel with. Not the kids fault, but last time I travelled, there was a couple travelling with a child that was crying, hysterically the entire trip. This was a 20 hour trip all up, from NZ to SA, crossing NZ to AU then to SA, and they were with us all the way. The kid was going for the entire thing - I watched the parents take turns to look after her, standing near the toilets. I feel sorry for them having to deal with that, and for the girl being that upset (presumably sore ears? dunno), but that would not have been fun for the people around them either. I was always super wary of travelling with ours in case that happened. We were lucky that they just slept through all the flights, but it could have easily gone the other way. I would have felt pretty stink subjecting the surrounding 40+ people to a very upset child. | |
| ▲ | loloquwowndueo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Depends on the baby. Some are nightmarish. That’s the main thing - each family and each child are different, so it’s kind of hard to base your decision on what you see and hear from others. | | |
| ▲ | svachalek 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah mine was colicky and every time getting him to sleep involved rocking him for an hour+ while he screamed in my ear. And he woke up so easily. So I spent about 2 hours a day rocking and patting for the first year or so, not checking off a dozen countries on my passport. Never had a second for some reason. | | |
| ▲ | pfannkuchen 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m curious what made you conclude that he was colicky as opposed to something else? I was labeled colicky as a baby and my own children turned out to have some digestive issues with certain common foods that make them cry a ton when they or their mother eat them (and they get it via the milk). If I hadn’t debugged the food issues I might have labeled them “colicky”, but when we avoid those foods religiously they only cry when it makes sense and when the issue is solved they stop. I’m guessing I had a similar issue as a baby, my parents definitely didn’t attempt to debug it. No judgement by the way I’m just curious if you tried debugging things like that as I imagine “colicky” could encompass issues that aren’t possible to debug also, and it’s also understandable if you couldn’t put in the resources to debug it as in my case it’s been a gigantic and expensive pain in the ass. | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well when you go to every specialist and try every type of milk and every diet change imaginable it gets there through a diagnosis of exclusion. Trust me, the debugging is a big part of the trouble. Everyone is telling you to debug, but that is actually the thing you have to learn to stop doing. Your brain is telling you to debug. But it can't be debugged. I watched multiple women have mental breakdowns trying to debug a baby with a 6 month streak of colic. Eventually their brain just goes psychotic because a baby screaming 6+ months non-stop with nothing wrong while people frantically try to solve the problem is basically sever mental torture. It is not the hours, or days, or even weeks of screaming that get to you, it is the months of never ending ear-pearcing torture that nothing will fix, and they will not fucking sleep because they just want to scream for all of their sleep as well and naturally the caregivers won't be sleeping either due to this. And you cannot rely on crying to figure out when to feed, when to change a diaper, when the baby needs sleep, or some gentle motion -- all of your indicators are worthless. It is a hell for the baby and it is a hell for the parent. People struggling with this generally do not have any more children. Any other stage past baby for such child is 99% easier, I laugh when people say babies are the easiest stage. |
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| ▲ | bregma 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Our first was colicky for the first 18 months or so. A nightmare, really, just like you described. Back arched, face red, for hours every day, no comforting. We went on to have more kids. They were all quiet and easy. We sometimes wondered if there was something wrong with them. |
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| ▲ | tayo42 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure, the default for travel shouldn't be it'll be a nightmare though or impossible. |
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| ▲ | genthree 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | IME babies are the very easiest for almost everything. It's way more work to travel with a 10-year-old than a 1-year-old. Then quadruple that difficulty for each additional kid of roughly that age... |
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