| ▲ | al_borland 5 hours ago |
| I hate this pop-up so much. I don’t even have Chrome installed on my phone. How about open up on the only browser I have installed… This kind of thing should be illegal. The default browser is the default for a reason, to avoid this kind of stuff. I think I’ve reported this as a bug to Google a couple times, in a couple different apps… as they do it in their other apps too. The only thing that bothers me more are the, “sign-in with Google”, prompts on 90% of websites now. How about just giving the option to login with Google if so choose to login, and not spam it on every website just for visiting? Google really has made the internet and worse place in so many ways. |
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| ▲ | abustamam 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > I think I’ve reported this as a bug to Google a couple times, in a couple different apps… as they do it in their other apps too. Alas, I don't think it's a bug. A PM or VP probably got a bonus for this. > How about just giving the option to login with Google if so choose to login, and not spam it on every website just for visiting? Yeah this is kinda weird. I don't know if it's browser specific though. I use Firefox on my main computer and I think I still see it. Which means that the website owner opted into this weird pattern. No other auth providers do this. Just Google. |
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| ▲ | b112 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's OK. This is the dying, last gasp effort that a company makes when it has no way to innovate, no way to add any real value, no capacity to drive change internally, and has become completely non-user focused. In short, it's what companies like IBM and Broadcom are now. Shallow husks of their former self, mere holding companies for patents, with a complete lack of care and concern about any end-user retention. Google search has turned completely into junk over the last two weeks. You may think "two weeks only?!", and you're right there, but this is a whole new level of stupid. You may not be getting this where you are, but here searches are constantly prepended with human checks, searches can take up to 5+ seconds, you name it. They literally spend so little on maintaining and working on their search engine, that it's effectively unusable much of the time now. I don't care whether it's bot traffic, or what, and no it's not just me, or my ISP. This is wide-scale. It takes so long I just click on an alternate search engine and search there. I don't have time to waste in their inanity. Any sane and sensible company wouldn't entirely trash and destroy their mainline product, which is key to drive users to experience Google products. But this degree of sheer, unbridled arrogance is what topples empires. The thought that it really doesn't matter, flows off of google as a foul stench. Look at Microsoft of old, the god of arrogance. Once the most dominant, powerful tech company in the world. They were king. Browser king. OS king. Everything king. Now they are barely noticed by large swaths of the market. So goes Alphabet these days. |
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| ▲ | al_borland 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The problem is that these companies can remain on life support for decades, phoning it in and making things continuously worse as their desperation grows. If they follow the path of IBM and Broadcom, they will move away from the consumer market and focus more on the enterprise. If Google fully realized that vision it would be extremely disruptive. Them shutting down Google Reader practically killed RSS for quite a while. Imagine that level of disruption with products that have mainstream appeal… mail, maps, docs, search, etc. It would be pandemonium. | | |
| ▲ | still_grokking an hour ago | parent [-] | | > mail, maps, docs, search, etc. It would be pandemonium I would hardly notice, TBH. There are alternatives for all of that. |
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| ▲ | still_grokking an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not sure where you are but at least here Microslop is still ruling more or less everywhere besides the online ad market. They are big in everything that is mass scale developer oriented with things like GitHub, VSCode, or all their libs, tools, and integrations (they "own" in large parts for example Python, TS, and Rust). Governments and public services are all running on Azure. So do a lot of companies; more or less all small and mid sized. They are still dominant in the gaming market, and get stronger there with every year. Microslop was always, and still is the same Microslop. They are very successful with what they do since decades. Whether one likes that or not. | | |
| ▲ | Scoring6931 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | They haven't been dominant in the gaming market for a long time now. Since the beginning of the last generation (Xbox One, PS4, Nintendo Switch), Microsoft has had the worst selling game consoles. And they are getting weaker with every year: the Xbox director was fired just a few weeks ago. |
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| ▲ | lobf 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Look at Microsoft of old, the god of arrogance. Once the most dominant, powerful tech company in the world. They were king. Browser king. OS king. Everything king. Now they are barely noticed by large swaths of the market. Have they ever been more valuable than now? | | |
| ▲ | al_borland an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I think it’s more about how they are perceived. They’re making a lot of money somehow, but they have been losing desktop OS marketshare for at least 15 years, they completely missed mobile, Xbox seems to be failing, they completely gave up on the browser and just threw a skin on Chrome. They have O365 in the enterprise, sure, but that was a market they once owned… now they share it with Google Docs and a host of others. They had to shove Linux into Windows just to get developers to stick around. They had the PC gaming market on lockdown, but Valve is coming for them with all their Linux based efforts… we have PewDiePie as an Arch user now. How bad does Microsoft need to screw up to push someone all the way to Arch? All their consumer facing products seem to be trending down. Everyone loves to talk about FAANG… there is no M, why not? One would think Microsoft would belong more in that collection than Netflix, yet here we are. In terms of technology and looking forward, what is Microsoft doing really right? Even their investment in AI seems questionable and they pushed it into their products so hard that everyone hates it. They have GitHub and VS Code, but that was an acquisition and people are always nervous, because they don’t really trust Microsoft based on their track record. Azure is fairly popular, but AWS is still the benchmark everyone talks about. There is their enterprise management software… that helped take Styker completely down last week (maybe not totally Microsoft’s fault and more the admin, but that’s still some really bad press). Did I forget something big? | | |
| ▲ | still_grokking 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | TBH, you could change a few terms and that text wouldn't look much different in the 90's. Microslop never gave a shit on end-users and what they think. Nobody ever "liked" Microslop. People were always complaining that Windows is shit, Office is shit, MS Servers are a joke, etc. Nobody at Microslop ever cared. They always cared only about having all the companies and governments in ransom, which was always their golden egg goose. The only other thing they care about, to make the first thing happen, are developers. They put a lot money into keeping people developing using their tech, and this actually works. Even on Linux it's hard to avoid Miroslop tech. (I've got just today a Pipewire update which pulled in some MS libs for ML; and there is for sure more as they have even code in the Kernel.) Microslop's EEE strategy is a long game, which is actually pretty hard to beat. |
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| ▲ | cmcaleer an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think if, 10 years ago, you spun Microsoft into several different companies with everything playing out exactly as it has today in the product management side, the most direct consumer-facing sections like Windows Desktop and Xbox would have cratered and most analysts would say that they have bleak futures, while Azure and 365 would have grossly overperformed and would have been titans. MS has been successful despite fucking up the monolithic position they held in desktop and gaming, because they managed to find a particularly valuable golden goose. It's just that in doing so they allowed the other golden geese they have to become quite sick. If you took out cloud rev MS would have been much more motivated to not let the rest of the company's products turn in to the sorry state they're in. | | |
| ▲ | solid_fuel 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | If you had separated them, 365 would probably run on AWS and have better cross-browser support. | |
| ▲ | still_grokking an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most client PC are still running on Microslop Windows. They are, as always, using Windows to sell all their other crap, especially Azure and 365. Things like their AD or office tools are tightly integrated into the cloud so you realistically can't even use the one without using the other. | | |
| ▲ | avhception 26 minutes ago | parent [-] | | At work, we needed a PC for a Linux-based Webkiosk the other day. The computer proposed by the colleague who actually orders stuff comes with a Windows license. I said we don't need that. A fruitless, lame effort was made to locate a substitute w/o a Windows license. I renewed my protest, but the feeling that the problem is me was already floating in the air. I gave up. We purchased a Windows license to run Linux. For the umpteenth time.
It's like a Microsoft tax on PCs. |
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| ▲ | yehat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you feel they're? As user, not as investor. |
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| ▲ | paulddraper 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > not spam it on every website just for visiting? It's the website that spamming that. Either via google.accounts.id.prompt(), or options provided to loaded Google scripts. Google is guilty only insofar as that feature is possible. |
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| ▲ | al_borland 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There is no way this many sites did it organically without Google pushing it in some way, not to mention they built the thing in the first place (as you mentioned). There also doesn’t seem to be any way to disable it (other than maybe an extension that I saw recently, but at $15 I needed to think about how much I want to spend just because Google is obnoxious). I’m sure the real goal of this “feature” is to get people to sign-up for the site without them actually realizing they are signing up. They click OK just so the modal goes away and now the site has their email address. They can use that growing email list to seek higher prices from sponsors when they put an add in their newsletter the user will now be spammed with. Imagine if the other auth providers followed suit. Open a news article and you need to close the Google auth, Apple auth, Facebook auth, Microsoft auth, GutHub auth, X auth… I’m sure I’m forgetting some. After closing those 6 modals, reject the cookie prompt, close the newsletter modal, and maybe now we can start reading the article if there is an auto-playing video ad covering some of the content. All of this is really pushing me away from the internet in general and souring me on the tech industry as a whole. I’m at that point where I find myself casually browsing for jobs that won’t require I ever touch a computer again. | | |
| ▲ | still_grokking 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Just use µBlock Origin for most of the annoyances, and for the stupid google popup a simple Stylus CSS rule is enough. |
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| ▲ | harry8 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Google is guilty | | |
| ▲ | hilbert42 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Trouble is we cognoscenti know it but the great unwashed do not and or don't give a damn about the fact. Google and all of Big Tech well know of our objections but unfortunately we are only hardly perceptible noise to be ignored on their way to even greater profits. |
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