| ▲ | wildredkraut 6 hours ago |
| Yeah? Then try to drag out a tab of firefox or GNOME files to the upper direction, good luck. Then check how "awful" Blender 5.1 titlebar and window frame integrates to GNOME. Have fun trying to make Deskflow/Synergy working on GDM. |
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| ▲ | flexagoon 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Don't know about the last two, but I just tried dragging a GNOME Files tab up and it worked just fine?.. |
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| ▲ | Ardren 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Then try to drag out a tab of firefox Works fine here? |
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| ▲ | wildredkraut 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here it just works to the left or right, tried multiple distributions Fedora, Arch, CashyOS, NixOS, no way. Perhaps an issue with NVIDIA drivers, running a 5090 here. |
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| ▲ | DANmode 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Have fun trying to make Deskflow/Synergy working on GDM. Just install less secure packages, or an entire less secure OS, we’re not stopping you. |
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| ▲ | wildredkraut 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Or just install Windows, install Deskflow, do my job, earn my money, pay my bills, go on vacation, take a sun bath and stop using an OS developed by people wearing thin foil aluminum hats. |
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| ▲ | iknowstuff 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Wow what a showstopper! |
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| ▲ | wildredkraut 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's just some of the so many reasons why the "Year of the Linux Desktop" will never see the light. Linux is doomed to run mainly headless on a dark chamber hardware. As always when the Linux Desktop is just starting to take off, somebody comes up with a new great self destructive idea(wayland), it always has been like that and probably will never change. | | |
| ▲ | flomo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The goal is to produce a stable workstation OS, because that's who pays the bills. That means Linux 'enthusiasts' who want the latest and greatest stuff have signed themselves up to be eternal betatesters. That part will never change because its largely intentional. | |
| ▲ | flexagoon 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I am skeptical of the "Year of the Linux Desktop" as well, but saying that it won't come because of problems like that is crazy. Windows has plenty of bugs of much higher severity, and they don't seem to stop people from using it. People just use what they're used to. | |
| ▲ | scheeseman486 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Wayland is why Steam Deck is a product. Gamescope, the compositor it uses for all the features that makes it compelling to buy, uses it and it's features heavily. Desktop Linux was never going to go anywhere stuck on X. Wayland is happening, it's currently going through it's trial by fire and in the end (and for a lot of people, right now) it'll be better for it. It's easy to say Wayland has been around forever and barely progressed, but for me it's pretty easy to see, based on the massive amount of fixed issues and new features being added to Wayland, that we're no longer on the horizontal part of the curve. It seems a lot of people have become blind to it's exponential growth. Also the growth of desktop Linux adoption, which is real and happening, in spite of 'Wayland setting Linux Desktop back by 10 years'. | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp 44 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Steam Deck is a product thanks to Windows developers, that feed Proton with content. | | |
| ▲ | scheeseman486 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Huh, didn't know that all the Windows developers at Microsoft made all the Windows games. Super cool. |
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| ▲ | MBCook 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Have you USED macOS 26? | | |
| ▲ | wildredkraut 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nope, I stopped using Apple devices in early 2019. I can't accept their attitude anymore, of deciding what I'm allowed to install on my hardware. macOS is a bit more open than iOS, but is every year shifting more and more into the same direction. |
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| ▲ | fragmede 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Except for AI. I can have Claude go dick around with gconf and .rc files and .input or whatever and have it set things up the way I want to work. |
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| ▲ | renewiltord 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Decades of using Linux desktops and nothing has ever changed hahaha. Users still complain things don’t work. Fans still say “oh what a first world problem”. Like a little 2004 era time loop. People still installing Dapper Drake. Haha. In the time that people have been talking about the Wayland future to today where they’re still talking about it I have lived in 3 continents, met my wife and had a child, and experienced a few huge technology shifts. Truly amazing. I get this blast of nostalgia every time this discussion happens. Like looking through a bubble and seeing my teenage self. | | |
| ▲ | wildredkraut 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Fully agree, same here. It's just sad to keep watching this, because now just after approx. 15 years i started to evaluate the Linux Desktop again and it failed again.
Many professional software like Maya, Houdini, Unreal, etc. that used to run great on Linux/X11, now sucks on wayland. Some are hyping Linux for the subpar gaming compatibility, while for GameDev Windows is still required. In 15 years I'll try again, but then I'm probably to old for this. | | |
| ▲ | pjmlp 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Or they say it isn't, but then from which OS are the games that make using Proton a requirement? They aren't targeting Linux, they are targeting Windows Game Developers Kit, even when the engine is actually cross platform. |
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| ▲ | ziml77 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | When there's people taking the complaints as attacks rather than feedback on how to improve, it's no wonder we keep seeing the same complaints. I just don't get it myself. When users complain about the software I've released, I look to see if there's reasonable changes I can make to alleviate their issues. | |
| ▲ | philwelch 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hey at least they finished Perl 6! | |
| ▲ | jasonjayr 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Wayland breaks my slashdot-themed e16 desktop!! /s |
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| ▲ | queenkjuul 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're clearly being sarcastic but when your display manager can't let you type your password that is very literally a show stopper |
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