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jen729w 5 hours ago

Also, not a single one of those 300m Teams users wants to spend another minute there. Whereas people find Telegram useful and not odious.

snthpy 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I feel the opposite. I'm on Teams all day at work and have reluctantly opened Telegram recently to try a Claw despite having an account for years.

I've been surprised how little support there has been for Teams in the whole AI ecosystem. It seems all developers assume that the whole world is at startups working on Slack when most businesses are on Microsoft 365.

weird-eye-issue a few seconds ago | parent | next [-]

Compared to operating on text files (which is relatively very simple and something Claude Code is great for), I have a feeling it's kind of a disaster dealing with Microsoft integrations and the different file formats

xeyownt 3 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Looking forward to seeing AI ranting about pesky bullets in Word.

do_anh_tu 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’ve been using Telegram for about 10 years, and it’s one of the few products that has consistently felt great the entire time. It’s fast everywhere: backend, mobile app, desktop app, all of it. Everything just works. Its sync is out of this world—fluid, fast, and seamless across devices. You can use it on your phone, then move to your PC or laptop and continue instantly without friction. Unlimited message history and file storage are fantastic, and the bot platform is absurdly powerful. It’s boring in the best way, which is exactly what you want from a channel for interacting with your agents everywhere.

hallway_monitor 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Since we are apparently giving messaging platform reviews here, I feel exactly the same way about Microsoft Teams. It works great. It does everything I want. It doesn’t get in my way. 10 out of 10 keep up the great work guys!

xeyownt 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Then you must not be using it.

Teams network connectivity is a plain joke. If you use suspend, or frequently change network, the thing will just never reconnect, even though you have VPN alive and all network applications perfectly running.

And the thing is just absurbdly sluggish, only display blurred grey lines instead of text in a meager attempt to look snappy.

dijit 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t believe you.

I would never accuse Teams of being fast.

Doesn’t seem to matter if I have an i9, a macbook m4 or a threadripper.

badc0ffee 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I only use Teams for meetings and the calendar, and the occasional chat during a meeting. I find it totally fine and I don't really think about it much one way or the other. For reference I have a 2021 M1 Max with 64 GB.

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gostsamo an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

satire is dead for when it comes home we look her in the face and cannot recognize her.

ozozozd 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Username checks out?

DetroitThrow 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>It works great.

When it is online, I agree with things asides from the "fast" part, actually. But many companies have a secondary service for async comms/chat when being Teams cannot be online, and compared to Slack.

pokegobots 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Back in the day, when I used to play pokemon go, there was a small local community and we would struggle to decide where to meet up for the daily raids because people would basically not respond (so as t not commit), or not know which gym each other meant exactly, nor give live updates when people moved around, etc. etc.

Then I joined a group from a bigger city where I commuted for work. They had a telegram group chat with two "channels", one for talking, one for bot posts. The telegram bot could be sent a single screenshot of a raid, and it would use OCR to automatically generate an interactive UI for that raid for everyone to see, with all the relevant info, and it would also clear itself up when the raid is no longer relevant. You could press buttons to say you were going, that you MAYBE were going, if you were late, and if you already started/done it, all in single clicks. Tons of options, tons of information, all live updated.

I was bedazzled. That feature singlehandedly removed all attrition from urban social gaming. And it was entirely grassroots. It made me try out making my own telegram bots, and yeah, you basically have the power to make a little app in chat form, even some that feel like CLI commands.

It's been OVER HALF A DECADE and I have yet to see a single other chat application have that degree of freedom where it comes to applications and bots. Some like discord even did whole ass 100% reworks of their bot AP to support the likes of slash commands, and still fall short. And there's none worse than Teams. Teams hates you. Teams spent the prior 2 years before this one basically pointing a gun to our heads telling us they were removing webhooks and pushing back on it whenever they repeatedly get told that's the most insane and dogshit idea ever. And they still did it. There's just no spark in Teams UX. No self-respect. It's a soulless product made entirely as a dumping place of "synergy" with other M$ products. It's reciprocal, I hate it too.

Oh and my local group never go into telegram because they didn't want a new app. It died, but I still kept playing after work without problem. It makes me wonder how fast Teams would die if it wasn't proped up by 365 and Azure subscriptions.

nozzlegear 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> we would struggle to decide where to meet up for the daily raids because people would basically not respond (so as t not commit), or not know which gym each other meant exactly, nor give live updates when people moved around, etc. etc.

This kind of thing is so common in groups of people, it's one of my pet peeves. My own family does this in our group messages when trying to make big decisions like who should host thanksgiving or where we should go for a family vacation.

I make it a point to just take charge and tell people that we're doing XYZ now. It usually either results in a decision, or gets the discussion going enough that I can do it again with new information.

theK 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

That has roughly been my MO as well and it works great for groups where identities have settled.

But one has to keep in mind that, in our currwnt "more woke" times, if you go this way in a new group you run the risk of being labeled an array of things. So tread carefully there.

eru 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I wonder if Teams hates you, because they are doing the bidding of their actual customers (corporate decisions makers and purse holders), and those people's interests are not exactly aligned with the users'.

nine_k 4 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem is that these people holding the actual purse don't care enough about their subordinates' experience. They care about the price tag, and about compliance. Apparently the makers of Teams think about the same. None of them thinks in terms of lost productivity.

eru 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, compliance is a big one. And it's not so much that they are actively hostile to user productivity (and quality of life), they just don't care enough.

onair4you 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My employer keeps Slack so locked down it is not really possible to use anything useful with it anyway…

almostdeadguy 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Odious is one of the most reserved words you could use to describe Telegram, which is primarily a host for scams that the influencers and other bottom feeders aren't allowed to monetize on the big social networks.