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sonofhans 10 hours ago

No, it does not. For one thing, we don’t have access to all the data, just what’s being told us. For another, it at best shows that Waymo is safer than average. Safer than an attentive London Cabby? I bet not.

srini 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

London cabbys can be hangry or have broken up with their partners that day. What makes you so sure they're fully attentive on any given day?

jonas21 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> For one thing, we don’t have access to all the data

In the US, we do have access to all the data [1]. They're required to report every incident with an injury or any amount of property damage, and it's all available for download as CSV.

> For another, it at best shows that Waymo is safer than average.

No, it shows that Waymo is 6 to 12x safer than average.

[1] https://www.nhtsa.gov/laws-regulations/standing-general-orde...

probabletrain 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I know that anecdotal experience is definitionally just that, anecdotal. But I've had a handful of attentive London cabby experiences (and enough in-Waymo experiences) that give me conviction that Waymos are far safer than them. They're out there driving all day every day, it's obvious to me that a Waymo driver is going to be safer than even a professional.

One cabby pulled out of a t junction to end up alongside me on a motorbike – a Waymo would never do that.