Death, taxes and escalating safety are the only certainities in this tech dominated world. So, be ready for more safety in the next round few months/years down the line. Eventually Android will become as secure as ios. We need a third alternative before that day comes.

It's not a win by any means. I hope that we don't stop making noise.

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EvanAnderson 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's not a win by any means.

It's a a defeat, albeit a minor one. The defeats will escalate until there's nothing left to lose. "Normies" don't care and the tech people who do care are fewer and further between than you'd think.

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wolvoleo 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not secure when one of the main adversaries (Google) controls all the keys.

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Mogzol 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I believe that is why "escalating safety" and "secure" were written in italics in the comment. Those are the terms Google would use, not necessarily the truth.

	▲	wolvoleo 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Ahh in the glider app I use the italics didn't appear. I use very old version because I didn't like their last redesign.

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varispeed 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google serves ads with known scams and nothing seems done about it.

Yet, they are concerned about this.

It has nothing to do with safety, but everything to do with control.

I remember when Google disabled call recording in Android, so you no longer could record scammers. Thanks to recording I was able to get money back from insurance company that claimed they absolutely didn't sell me this and that over the phone (paid for premium insurance and got basic).

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flyinghamster 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> I remember when Google disabled call recording in Android, so you no longer could record scammers.

Citation needed. My Pixel 7a with the latest updates has settings for call recording in the phone app. Since I never screwed around with it, I'd assume these are the defaults:

Call recording is turned on, with "asks to record calls" set

Automatically delete recordings is "never"

Automatically record calls with non-contacts is off

No specific numbers to automatically record calls are set

There is also a note that you have to agree to their ToS to use it, and I'd also suggest being careful if you live in a jurisdiction that requires two-party consent for recording.

In any case, I'm of the opinion that if F-Droid goes, I'm basically going to treat this as a feature phone and stay away from third-party apps in general aside from "musts" like banking.

	▲	dzikimarian 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It was added recently to Google dialer app. If you want to use external one or aren't on pixel which received this update then bad luck for you.

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odiroot 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

*Tightening control. Nothing about safety here.