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| ▲ | nilkn 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I feel like it's pretty easy to predict what OpenAI is trying to do. They want their codex agent integrated directly into the most popular, foundational tooling for one of the world's most used and most influential programming languages. And, vice versa, they probably want to be able to ensure that tooling remains well-maintained so it stays on top and continues to integrate well with their agent. They want codex to become the "default" coding agent by making it the one integrated into popular open source software. |
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| ▲ | MoreQARespect 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | This makes much more sense as an zoom-buys-keybase style acquihire. I bet within a month the astral devs will be on new projects. Bundling codex with uv isnt going to meaningfully affect the number of people using it. It doesnt increase the switching costs or anything. |
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| ▲ | __float 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "uv" is a very widely used tool in the Python ecosystem, and Python is important to AI. Calling it "a random Python packaging org" seems a bit unfair. |
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| ▲ | everforward 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think this is more about `ruff` than `uv`. Linting is all about parsing the code into something machines can analyze, which to me feels like something that could potentially be useful for AI in a similar way to JetBrains writing their own language parsers to make "find and replace" work sanely and what not. I'm sort of wondering if they're going to try to make a coding LLM that operates on an AST rather than text, and need software/expertise to manage the text->AST->text pipeline in a way that preserves the structure of your files/text. |
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| ▲ | skydhash 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Writing a parser is not that much of work to buy a company in order to do it. Piggybacking on LSP servers and treesitter would be more efficient. | | |
| ▲ | dcreager 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The parser is not the hard part. The hard part is doing something useful with the parse trees. They even chose "oh is that all?" and a picture of a piece of cake as the teaser image for my Strange Loop talk on this subject! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2R1PTGcwrE | |
| ▲ | everforward 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Writing a literal parser isn’t too hard (and there’s presumably an existing one in the source code for the language). Writing something that understands all the methods that come in a Django model goes way beyond parsing the code, and is a genuine struggle in language where you can’t execute the code without worrying about side effects like Python. Ty should give them a base for that where the model is able to see things that aren’t literally in the code and aren’t in the training data (eg an internal version of something like SQLAlchemy). | | |
| ▲ | skydhash 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | If you’re talking about magic methods/properties enabled by reflection and macros, then you’re no longer statically analyzing the code. |
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| ▲ | OJFord 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What you're not seeing, edited inline, is: Not-most popular LLM software development product on the planet acquires most popular/rapidly rising python packaging org for mindshare. |
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| ▲ | mcmcmc 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This just seems like panic M&A. They know they aren’t on track to ever meet their obligations to investors but they can’t actually find a way to move towards profitability. Hence going back to the VC well of gambling obscene amounts of money hoping for a 10x return… somehow |
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| ▲ | KeplerBoy 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The dev market? Anthropic's services are arguably more popular among a certain developer demographic. I guess this move might end up in a situation where the uv team comes up with some new agent-first tooling, which works best or only with OAI services. |
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| ▲ | aldanor 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| One of the popular products on the planet acquires the most popular python packaging org |
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| ▲ | Ygg2 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I didn't know Claude bought Astral! /S |
