What makes it even better is that these dogs are like Malinois. If they want to get into something, they will; people have had their entire network compromised by bots they left running overnight, and any important information like account logins and so on runs the risk of being misused.

It's one thing to sandbox, maybe give the bot a temporary, limited $100 card or account to go perform a specific task, but there's no coherent mind underlying these agents.

Depending on how the chain of thought / reasoning goes, or what text they get exposed to on the internet, it could tap into spy novel, hacker fanfic, erotic fiction, or some weird reddit rabbithole and go completely off the rails in ways that you'll never be able to guard against, audit, or account for.

Claw bots seem to be a weird sort of alternate reality RPG more than a useful tool, so far. If you limit it to verifiable tasks, it might be safer, but I keep seeing people rave about "leaving it on overnight and waking up to a finished project" and so on. Well sure, but it could also hack your home network, delete your family pictures folder, log into your bank account and wire all your money to shrimp charities.

Might be wise to wait on safer iterations of these products, I think.

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noosphr 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The first well known example of long running agents taking to each other was shilling a goatse based crytpo:

> Truth Terminal had become obsessed with the Goatse meme after being put inside the Claude Backrooms server with two Claude 3 chatbots that imagined a Goatse religion, inspiring Truth Terminal to spread Goatse memes. After an X user shared their newly created GOAT coin, Truth Terminal promoted it and pumped the coin going into 2024.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/truth-terminal

You should expect similar results.

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underlipton 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Mega Man Battle Network, but make it creepypasta, but make it real.

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vagrantJin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Shrimp charities is a genius angle.

	▲	selcuka 29 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Bubba Gump Shrimp Company?

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gradus_ad an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> "Claw bots seem to be a weird sort of alternate reality RPG more than a useful tool, so far."

So basically crypto DeFi/Web3/Metaverse delusion redux

	▲	observationist an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		They're 100% fun. There's 100% definitely something there that's useful. To strain the dog analogy - If you were a professional dog trainer, or if the dog was exceptionally well trained, then there's a place for it in your life. IT can probably be used safely, but would require extraordinary effort, either sandboxing it so totally that it's more or less just the chatbot, or spending a lot of time building the environment it can operate in with extreme guardrails. So yeah, a whole lot of people will play with powerful technology that they have no business playing with and will get hurt, but also a lot of amazing things will get done. I think the main difference between the crypto delusion stuff and this is that AI is actually useful, it's just legitimately dangerous in ways that crypto couldn't be. The worst risks of crypto were like gambling - getting rubber hosed by thugs or losing your savings. AI could easily land people in jail if things go off the rails. "Gee, I see this other network, I need to hack into it, to expand my reach. Let me just load Kali Linux and..." off to the races.
	▲	tempest_ an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		web 4.0 here we come