And most of that is done on Macbooks by people that either can not or will not use Windows OS.

Wait, is this true? I would have imagined unless it’s about porting software or testing it, everyone would be forced to use Windows.

If it is true, wonder what the proportion is then: 25%, 50%?

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chokolad 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It's not true. Source - me, MSFT for 25 years.

	▲	jiggawatts 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I’ve seen Microsoft employees run public presentations from MacBooks on multiple occasions.
	▲	BizarroLand 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes, because you know what all of the 200,000+ employees are doing in every wing and branch of the entire company. Then again, Microsoft themselves directly dispute your statement: Across the landscape of more than 750,000 devices in use at Microsoft, we support Windows, Android, iOS, and macOS devices. Windows devices account for approximately 60 percent of the total employee-device population, while iOS, Android, and macOS account for the rest. Of these devices, approximately 45 percent are personally owned employee devices, including phones and tablets. Our employees are empowered to access Microsoft data and tools using managed devices that enable them to be their most productive. https://www.microsoft.com/insidetrack/blog/evolving-the-devi... Not to mention that most app designers use OSX for the design tools, which means that there is going to be by default some bleed between the two systems on design choices alone.

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Spivak 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't mean this as a jab, but would you use Windows to develop software? Especially Windows that has AD teeth sunk into it where everything is "managed by your organization." It's just a thousand small cuts for seemingly no good reason.

	▲	gambiting 2 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		>>but would you use Windows to develop software? I'm a c++ developer and I wouldn't use anything other than Windows to develop software, for one reason alone - Visual Studio is a fantastic tool that is better than any IDE I have ever tried it and imho it's the best product Microsoft makes. It just works and works well. And most console toolchains are only on Windows, so outside of iOS development I don't really have a choice.
	▲	BizarroLand 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		No, but I also wouldn't let people who do not understand the soul of the OS to rewrite it. If I were the microslop god for 6 weeks, I would force everyone to go to a boot camp and use Windows 7 for 4 of those weeks so they could see what made it so good. No invasiveness, an OS that felt like yours. Just enough eye candy to not be distracting but to also feel like a clean modern system. Low system usage at idle. Calm, clean, and ready to roll when you clicked a button. Windows is NEVER going to be MacOS, but the dev teams seem obsessed with macifying windows while also wedging that AI abomination copilot into every line of code, so windows is getting a tag team of rapid enshittification on top of already having been massively enshittified, and at least some portion of it is due to the people being paid to make it not understanding what it is supposed to be, the niche it held, and the reason for windows existence. With no soul, windows has to go.