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aetherspawn 8 hours ago

Guys, cars are specifically designed to work for their entire life in areas where there is no coverage. Thus, there are plenty of EVs, probably all of them, where you can just open the telematics box and pull the SIM card. Then the software will never update, and the car will just stay in whatever state it’s currently in.

The moment you do this things will stop working: for example phone app, but your car will be more or less unshittified.

And yes, there should probably be a law that makes this easier for the consumer to do for example mandating a plastic hatch or something.

But connected cars are not the end of the world and if we normalise disconnecting cars (make an online list or something of cars that are confirmed to work fine afterwards) then we’ve basically solved the issue. Remember, EVs are not the problem, and this kind of stuff will be mainstream/common knowledge once adoption rates are higher.

sehansen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Don't many of them have soldered SIMs or pure-SW eSIMs now?

dzhiurgis 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The moment you do this things will stop working: for example phone app

Probably untrue with Tesla. I have mine integrated via BLE to home assistant for solar charging. App works via BLE using same protocol.

Your biggest struggle would be avoiding to update the native app, but I guess nothing is stopping you from developing your own implementation.

aetherspawn 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes the Tesla BLE seems to be one of the better ones and works in the middle of nowhere even without cell reception, so it probably would still work with the SIM pulled on the car side.