> No one is going to pay extra for fewer features.

Right, what people want is to pay less for fewer features.

If EVs with all their limitations are going to replace ICE cars for daily use, they need to be cheap. We need the Ford Focus or Toyota Tercel of EVs, with the same set of features (i.e. very few) that those cars had when they were introduced.

Otherwise I'll just go buy a used ICE Tercel or Focus.

When Tesla showed the world that an EV didn't have to look like a middle school science project and drive like a golf cart, it made sense that they went upmarket. They had to recover development costs. That won't work to get mass conversion.

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linkregister 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can get a new Model 3 base model for $36k. A Hyundai Ioniq 5 MSRP is $35k. A Chevy Bolt is $30k.

A non-EV Toyota Camry is $30k (hybrid and ICE).

We are almost there. For buyers on a budget, the used car market is liquid for EVs as of now.

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SoftTalker 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I'm talking more like half that. $15K for a basic, no-frills hatchback type EV.

I personally buy used, and pay about a quarter of that or less when I buy a car.

	▲	linkregister 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I buy used as well (>10 years old) If you can hoof it all the way to Fairfield (2.5 hours from Y Combinator HQ in SF; Muni->BART->Amtrak->taxi), you can get a 7 year old Model 3 for $14k tomorrow. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/770441711?a...

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cyberax 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Geely Xingyuan is $10000. Wuling Mini is $5600.

You're saying?