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dmitrygr a day ago

Then by your logic, every society on earth failed, because there are no places where you can act belligerently towards law enforcement and expect it to end well.

donkeybeer a day ago | parent | next [-]

Correct, they failed. Cops are rightfully called all kinds of nice things in all countries. We are far from having what should be a non failed society. But liberal democratic capitalist countries get much closer to success.

mindslight a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps by your obtusely applied system of logic, but not by mine. Societal values are ideals to be worked towards, not some sort of axiomatic foundation that pops into existence fully formed. The failed society condemnation pertains to your remark, which comes from a place of having given up on the idea that governments should be accountable to their citizens - aka authoritarianism.