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bryanlarsen 13 hours ago

My biggest peeve with hybrids is that it gives consumers the mistaken impression that they're going to have to replace the batteries in their EV.

Most hybrids aren't liquid-cooled (although that is changing), and the smaller size means that a hybrid puts a lot more cycles per mile on the battery than an EV does.

Which in practice means that a hybrid battery lasts about 100,000 miles whereas an EV lasts about 250,000 miles.

A Prius is an amazing car; a 300,000 mile Prius is often still in good shape and worth the expense to replace the battery in. Which means you might put 3 batteries in a Prius and then look at how expensive it would be to replace the battery in an EV 3 times and choke. But very few people are going to spend the significant dollars it costs to replace the battery in a 250,000 mile Tesla so in practice that's an expense you'll never have.

rtpg 8 hours ago | parent [-]

...are there 300k mile Priuses out on the road and being used?

defrost 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The indications from several articles is Yes.

eg, from one:

  We clarified that the standard mileage for the Toyota Prius Prime is up to 500,000 miles, but we would place the high mileage point for the car at around 300,000 miles. Once the vehicle passes this point in its lifespan, it’s far more likely to experience issues that cost ample money to keep in excellent condition.
How Long Do Toyota Prius Primes Last? The Scoop on Vehicle Lifespan (2024) https://www.copilotsearch.com/posts/how-long-do-toyota-prius...
bryanlarsen 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been in several Prius taxis with more than 300K on the odometer.

globular-toast 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Priuses are used for taxis all over the place and 300k miles is pretty standard.

kjkjadksj 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh yeah. There is a famous one in austrian taxi service with over 600k miles.

https://www.electricbike.com/the-curious-case-of-the-600000-...