Netherlands. And fuel injection has been a thing since the 1930s for Diesel and the 1950's for vehicles.

Yes, it has an ECU and ooh, gollies there is software in that. But it's completely invisible from an interaction point of view, there are no screens, all the buttons just do what they are told, there are no 'upgrades', no bugs, interfaces, restarts and attempts to kill me through 'assistance'.

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speedgoose 14 hours ago | parent [-]

I understand the appeal. Do you use paper maps too or you have a smartphone on the dashboard ? That would be a bit cheating.

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jacquesm 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I know where I'm going :)

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antonvs 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s interesting to see how people who grew up with smartphones think.

It’s entirely possible to get around without smartphones or paper maps. There are road signs, written directions, verbal directions. The main time I used to use a paper map was driving long distance trips in a foreign country.

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cozzyd 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I wonder how they get around on a bike...

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speedgoose 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If I don’t know the area and it’s not trivial, I use a map on my phone or my watch.

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_carbyau_ 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Really? Sounds like you are a possible customer... can I interest you in a handlebar mount for your phone?

https://www.quadlockcase.com.au/products/bike-mount

	▲	cozzyd 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I have one, but I haven't used it since I got a smart watch (I mostly used it to track my speed). I actually really dislike navigation apps, since they tend to take you on strange routes that maybe are slightly shorter? To be fair, I haven't owned a car in 15 years, so I rarely drive.