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parl_match 14 hours ago

> I'm convinced that the Japanese government is terrified of EVs because all the small and medium-sized businesses which support the Japanese auto industry will be absolutely gutted when vehicles contain drastically fewer parts.

For what it's worth, this theory is blown up by hydrogen based vehicles, which Japan has gone heavily in on. Yes, slightly more parts than an EV, but not a ton. And the drivetrain is electric.

SenHeng 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It really shows the bias in Honda’s management here. They’ve also spent years trying to develop and promote their hydrogen fuel cell cars and it’s just as much of a failure as their EV division yet they aren’t axing that golden child.

parl_match 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That's a fundamental misunderstanding of why they're going in on hydrogen so hard - it's something they can generate domestically and without geopolitical implications.

If there is a war with china or in the middle east, hydrogen vehicles are somewhat immune to oil or rare earth spikes.

They will likely never roll out hydrogen power in any large capacity but the capability will be there if they need it

SenHeng 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If we get into an actual shooting war with China, I don't think there's enough hydrogen generating facilities to make much of a difference. If maybe 20% of vehicles on the road were using hydrogen, maybe?

Considering how much money and effort both Toyota and Honda have poured into trying to kick start a hydrogen economy over the past decade and a half, and how much EV technology was evolved over the same time span, would it not make more sense to switch to the technology that actually is proven and actually has consumer demand for?

It's not like they're switching all that military hardware to hydrogen too.

Japan can't solve all of its energy woes, but it can ease it a lot by restarting all the nuclear reactors they shut down after Fukushima, and to be fair, they've been trying [0], but stuff breaks after not having been used in over a decade.

[0]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq6v0v32rg1o

NewJazz 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The drivetrain is still electric with hydrogen vehicles.

mjcarden 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Is there a place somewhere in the world where Hydrogen powered passenger vehicles are a success? I know that the one Hydrogen filling station here in Australia's Capital City has shut down after opening with great fanfare a few years ago. And the approximately 20 or so Hydrogen cars it supplied are no longer being used.

Vespasian 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I just looked it up for Germany[0] and there were a whopping 3 (0.0%) new hydrogen fuel cell cars registered in Februrary 2026. Even LPG cars were more with 397 registered.

For comparison 21.9% were BEVs, 11.5% Plugin hybrids, ~51% pure petrol or non plug-in hybrid, and 14.8% Diesel.

[0] https://www.kba.de/DE/Presse/Pressemitteilungen/Fahrzeugzula...