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0x000xca0xfe a day ago

We could artificially create a sterile, large pool of the ingredients and see what happens.

I've read about experiments like this but only at lab beaker scale.

HarHarVeryFunny a day ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think you'd want a single homogeneous "large pool", but rather a large variety of different types of micro-environment, including all those that have been suggested as possible environments for the emergence of life - the chemical and physical environments of hydrothermal vents, volcanic hot springs, shorelines, different types of rocks, clays, etc. You'd want to have environments that included all energy sources present on earth (solar, lightening, geothermal), all forms of mechanical agitation/mixing (hydrothermal, waves), etc, etc.

pixl97 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The bigger the pool the harder to create it here on Earth without introducing problems. For example, take a prion. Hard as hell to actually get rid of, how do you know you've not actually introduced something like this to your sterile pool that's going to make it do things you don't expect.

HarHarVeryFunny a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, but it seems impossible to experiment on the scale that would have happened in nature where there would have been millions of localized "test tube experiments" ongoing for millions of years.

Of course people can, and do, try to replicate early earth environments and self-assembling proto-cells, but I'm not sure how intellectually satisfying any self-replication success from these "designer experiments" would be, unless perhaps done on such a large scale (simulation vs test tube?) that any conclusions could be made about what likely happened in nature - just how specific do the conditions need to be?

0x000xca0xfe a day ago | parent [-]

My personal theory is that the conditions for life are plentiful in the universe but it probably took an unbelieavable number of random chemical/mechanical events to form the first proto-lifeform.

    The discovery comes after these building blocks of life were detected on another asteroid called Bennu, suggesting they are abundant throughout the solar system.
Yet actual life remains to be discovered...
HarHarVeryFunny a day ago | parent | next [-]

> Yet actual life remains to be discovered...

We've barely started to look, other than on Mars, and notably we are seeing possible signs there. There may even still be primitive life there.

If we do find life of Mars, or say Europa, i.e. in the very first places we look for it, that that would be highly suggestive that it is extremely common (at least in primitive form).

edgyquant 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Also it seems that finding a balance where an ecosystem doesn’t kill itself with its own waste is probably harder than we assume. Earth life has totally changed the atmosphere of the planet, I would many it many cases even when life does for it kills itself early on

sph 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The biology equivalent of "infinite monkeys at a typewriter"

make3 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's funny talking about non software stuff on HN. I'm sure there's hundreds of papers on simulations and expert analysis of this.

freedomben 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Surely in a minority, but I do see posts from people on HN that are scientists, researchers, even mechanics and such. We definitely get a lot of speculation, but I've learned never to underestimate the level of expertise of people in our community.

0x000xca0xfe a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Then please link the best ones? Or write some of your high-level thoughts about it.

You don't need to be an expert to be curious. Many here would surely like to know more. That's why non-IT stories are upvoted in the first place.

moralestapia a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Does 'we' include 'you'?